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    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    It's entirely relevant.

    Two bums going into a back yard and fighting doesn't equate you to being an actual fighter.

    Not in my eyes.

    Two profession athletes who's profession is to fight is what I call a fighter.
    You don't see anything wrong with viewing them as more of a fighter because they choose to partake in a farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more limited form of combat? Speaking in general, not so much Kimbo as he had his rules. Also as Ruben mentioned, we have bums in boxing.

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      Originally posted by RubenSonny View Post
      There are guys who have licences who are on that level though, guys turning up for a cheque are just that even if they are technically fighters.
      Right but a guy getting their skull bashed in for a pay cheque I think deserves to be called a fighter

      I didn't say that every professional fighter can beat every guy who merely fights on the street. World class fighters I do believe would though, but that's another debate.

      Either way it's completely strayed off topic here.

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        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
        You don't see anything wrong with viewing them as more of a fighter because they choose to partake in a farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more limited form of comat? Speaking in general, not so much Kimbo as he had his rules. Also as Ruben mentioned, we have bums in boxing.
        I don't even consider "No rules" fighting Don't even consider it. Irrelevant to me.

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          Ah, ok. Ima go see what else is going on. Nice chatting with you, stay black

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            Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
            and you posted a link to street fighter??? street fighter?? come on homie,stop it
            Seriously huh? And he's serious...

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              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Kimbo Slice wasn't a fighter Why because he beat up those guys on youtube? All of those guys are fighters to you? They aren't to me.

              I remember when people used to say Kimbo Slice would beat a prime Mike Tyson like this thread Based off "Being a street fighter" and beating all those "street fighters" think he showed that when he did start actually fighting.

              I have no idea what the fact he beat Ray Mercer shows.

              But no Kimbo Slice wasn't considered a fighter to me until he went professional.

              We want to talk about disrespect, I find calling those bums he beat up on "fighters" to be disrespectful.
              I think I made my point quite clearly. Kimbo had barely even become a "fighter," by your definition, when he beat a former heavyweight champion and Olympic gold medallist. How do you figure a guy who just started "fighting" was able to beat a career fighter who'd reached the highest levels of his combat sport? Obviously Kimbo would've been smoked by Tyson or even Mercer in a boxing match, but you see what happened to Ray in an MMA match. What makes you think the same couldn't possibly happen to Tyson? Why, because Tyson's a "fighter"?

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                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Right but a guy getting their skull bashed in for a pay cheque I think deserves to be called a fighter

                I didn't say that every professional fighter can beat every guy who merely fights on the street. World class fighters I do believe would though, but that's another debate.

                Either way it's completely strayed off topic here.
                Fair enough, I wish Bruce did actually box

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                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                  I think I made my point quite clearly. Kimbo had barely even become a "fighter," by your definition, when he beat a former heavyweight champion and Olympic gold medallist. How do you figure a guy who just started "fighting" was able to beat a career fighter who'd reached the highest levels of his combat sport? Obviously Kimbo would've been smoked by Tyson or even Mercer in a boxing match, but you see what happened to Ray in an MMA match. What makes you think the same couldn't possibly happen to Tyson? Why, because Tyson's a "fighter"?
                  Kimbo beat a 50 year old overweight Ray Mercer in a cage fighting match. What does that have to do with anything? Kimbo probably had more expericne in it than Ray did. Was Ray a medallist in Ultimate fighting? Was he anything in Ultimate fighting? He didn't beat him in a boxing match did he? It's two completely different combat sports. Mercer was a career fighter, in Boxing. Not Ultimate fighting.

                  Mike Tyson would get absolutely murdered in a cage fighting match. It's a completely different sport in which he's not trained. They have a completely different set of rules. A Boxer can't just walk into a cage and beat those guys.

                  What link does this have with Bruce Lee? He's not a cage fighter nor does he have any experience as one.

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                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    I don't even consider "No rules" fighting Don't even consider it. Irrelevant to me.
                    There is no better way of proving who the better fighter is. I'm not even talking about weapons, simply using all your humanly possessions.

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                      I don't know the terms used in the UFC, usually the guy on top is seen as having the dominant position but I saw a street fight once where the guy in the bottom was rabbit punching the guy laying on top of him, using headbutts, and all I could do is shake my head at some of the comments I've seen MMA fighters make about boxing in the past, it's truly sad. Until you partake in a blood sport-like sport where there are no rules, which obviously would never happen, you can't talk about how an MMA fighter would fare against a boxer in the streets.

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