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    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
    We were speculating about what Lee might've eventually done had he concentrated on a professional boxing career. So, yes, physical attributes like speed, power, coordination, timing, etc. would've made him a candidate to eventually become a good boxer. As we agree, a glass chin might've made all the other attributes moot
    Well firstly how can we access his power and timing?

    Secondly, physical attributes alone don't suggest anything really. We can't really access anything off of it.

    Having a glass chin is the first of many.

    How is he mentally? Will he fold under pressure? Can he take a body shot? What's his Ring IQ? Would he get frustrated if a fight wasn't going well?

    There is endless questions to consider when a guy has never experienced any of these things before.

    Which is another reason why you can't be considered a fighter without being a professional fighter.

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      Listen guys. All you have to watch is "Ip Man2" it's about the guy who founded wing chun which was Bruce lee teacher. At the end of the movie he whooped that boxers ass.

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        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
        I think I misunderstood you, simply fighting in general, not MMA, not boxing but partaking in fights or street fights right? That to me is a fighter.
        Not to me it's not.

        I've had so many street fights in my lifetime. Won some, lost some. No way on this Earth would I consider myself a "fighter".

        I know an endless list of guys who have fights. Literally meaningless to me.

        "Street fights" are worthless.

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          150/200lbs heavy bag hitting the ceiling

          That is Lee's power, like to see Tyson do that.

          Tyson gets hit by that kick and he fly about 10ft back.

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            Originally posted by Syf View Post
            A fight is a fight, man...

            From scenario to scenario there are differences in quality of form and levels of intensity/brutality, but ultimately, a fight is a fight.

            Just because someone doesn't fight under your personally approved circumstances, that doesn't mean they don't consider themselves a fighter, or are in fact, a fighter.

            It's an interesting mindset, that only professionally sanctioned fighters actually can claim to have fought, or be fighters. What about navy seals that have gotten in hand to hand combat in the field... Are they fighters?
            A fight's not a fight.

            A bumbling idiot fighting another one doesn't make them "fighters".

            They are in the sense they fight for their country or whatever cause but they aren't actual fighters no.

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              Boom...case closed!

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                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Not to me it's not.

                I've had so many street fights in my lifetime. Won some, lost some. No way on this Earth would I consider myself a "fighter".

                I know an endless list of guys who have fights. Literally meaningless to me.

                "Street fights" are worthless.
                So, Ryu from Street Fighter isn't a fighter?

                He goes around testing his skills against notable worldly competition, although mythical, does he not classify as a fighter?


                There is a distinct difference between either defending yourself or taking on someone because he called you out, as oppose to going around challenging yourself in the streets. I'll say it again, it's disrespectful what your stating here.

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                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                  MMA may be more versatile but even then it's extremely limited, yes I said it extremely limited, so now imagine boxing. I know we love this sport but don't think that these athletes are that invincible outside the ring due to their credentials, a lot can be utilized outside the ring and Bruce Lee was an advocate for fighting "dirty", very vocal about it as well. From biting, to finger jabbing the eyes, hitting low, headbutting name it.
                  This, even though Tyson would obviously wreck Lee.

                  I have got a feeling that most people on here have never been in fights or have even seen them. Applying boxing logic to fighting doesn't really work same with all martial arts, you have to have the right mentality in a 'street' fight. I have seen guys that I know were talented boxers get hit in a real fight and completely freeze up and get their ass whipped. Not saying a discipline can't be a great advantage but being in the ring with people around and the comfort of that is so different to an all out fight. It seems a lot of the guys on here imagine a 'street' fight as two gentlemen meeting up for some kind of honourable contest

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                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    A fight's not a fight.

                    A bumbling idiot fighting another one doesn't make them "fighters".

                    They are in the sense they fight for their country or whatever cause but they aren't actual fighters no.
                    Not all "non sanctioned" fights involve bumbling idiots. I already said quality of form can differ too from scenario to scenario so I covered that. Two masters of legitimate arts merely pushing hands/sparring are impressive to watch. Let alone when they are actually dueling how they used to. Don't you think you are being a bit close minded?

                    And the second... It can be easily argued that a Navy seal with real hand to hand combat experience is more of a fighter than a guy in a ring fighting under safer conditions.

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                      this is supposedly bruce lee


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