Mike Tyson VS Bruce Lee. No rules street fight. Who wins and how?

[CubanGuyNYC]

Kimbo beat a 50 year old overweight Ray Mercer in a cage fighting match. What does that have to do with anything? Kimbo probably had more expericne in it than Ray did. Was Ray a medallist in Ultimate fighting? Was he anything in Ultimate fighting? He didn't beat him in a boxing match did he? It's two completely different combat sports. Mercer was a career fighter, in Boxing. Not Ultimate fighting.

Mike Tyson would get absolutely murdered in a cage fighting match. It's a completely different sport in which he's not trained. They have a completely different set of rules. A Boxer can't just walk into a cage and beat those guys.

What link does this have with Bruce Lee? He's not a cage fighter nor does he have any experience as one.

Our conversation had turned away from Bruce Lee. We had started focusing on the definition of "fighter." Practically everything you wrote echoes what I already said. I don't see why you're repeating what I've already made clear I understand. Obviously (as I already stated) Kimbo would lose to those two boxers in a boxing match. But you refuse to call a guy like Kimbo a "fighter" when he beat your definition of a "fighter" in a fight (what else do we call it?). Bruce wouldn't be fighting Tyson by boxing rules, either, BTW.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't know the terms used in the UFC, usually the guy on top is seen as having the dominant position but I saw a street fight once where the guy in the bottom was rabbit punching the guy laying on top of him, using headbutts, and all I could do is shake my head at some of the comments I've seen MMA fighters make about boxing in the past, it's truly sad. Until you partake in a blood sport-like sport where there are no rules, which obviously would never happen, you can't talk about how an MMA fighter would fare against a boxer in the streets.

Most cage fighters I know feel disrespected when comparing their sport to street fighting. As would I now.

I once compared it to them and they were very annoyed about.

I've been educated more on it now, still don't like the sport but I respect the fighters.

[IronDanHamza]

Our conversation had turned away from Bruce Lee. We had started focusing on the definition of "fighter." Practically everything you wrote echoes what I already said. I don't see why you're repeating what I've already made clear I understand. Obviously (as I already stated) Kimbo would lose to those two boxers in a boxing match. But you refuse to call a guy like Kimbo a "fighter" when he beat your definition of a "fighter" in a fight (what else do we call it?). Bruce wouldn't be fighting Tyson by boxing rules, either, BTW.

Kimbo Slice beat a fighter yes, but he fought him in something he has no experience in and at the age of 50.

[IronDanHamza]

Our conversation had turned away from Bruce Lee. We had started focusing on the definition of "fighter." Practically everything you wrote echoes what I already said. I don't see why you're repeating what I've already made clear I understand. Obviously (as I already stated) Kimbo would lose to those two boxers in a boxing match. But you refuse to call a guy like Kimbo a "fighter" when he beat your definition of a "fighter" in a fight (what else do we call it?). Bruce wouldn't be fighting Tyson by boxing rules, either, BTW.

Kimbo Slice beat a fighter yes, but he fought him in something he has no experience in and at the age of 50. So what's the relevance?

[CubanGuyNYC]

I don't know the terms used in the UFC, usually the guy on top is seen as having the dominant position but I saw a street fight once where the guy in the bottom was rabbit punching the guy laying on top of him, using headbutts, and all I could do is shake my head at some of the comments I've seen MMA fighters make about boxing in the past, it's truly sad. Until you partake in a blood sport-like sport where there are no rules, which obviously would never happen, you can't talk about how an MMA fighter would fare against a boxer in the streets.

I love boxing, and enjoy a good boxing match more than MMA, but if similar level fighters from either disciplines met on the street, I would have to favor the MMA guy. He wouldn't need to try and beat the boxer at his own game. The fight would soon go to the ground, maybe with the MMA guy catching one or two shots, and the fight would soon be over. I would imagine very few boxers have any real grappling skills. And, while MMA fighters obviously have fewer striking skills, most have enough to weather a brief storm and go for the submission. Or, in the case of the street, a possible kill.

[IronDanHamza]

I love boxing, and enjoy a good boxing match more than MMA, but if similar level fighters from either disciplines met on the street, I would have to favor the MMA guy. He wouldn't need to try and beat the boxer at his own game. The fight would soon go to the ground, maybe with the MMA guy catching one or two shots, and the fight would soon be over. I would imagine very few boxers have any real grappling skills. And, while MMA fighters obviously have fewer striking skills, most have enough to whether a brief storm and go for the submission. Or, in the case of the street, a possible kill.

I think that's completely natural and just outright common sense.

A boxer can punch at the highest level and if they managed to hit the guy first they're likely going be out.

But if not, the cage fighter has the ability to take guys to the ground and skills to keep them there, and so on and so forth.

So naturally in a "street fight" the cage fighter would be favoured but who gives a **** about street fighting?

Everyone but me at the moment it looks like

[CubanGuyNYC]

Kimbo Slice beat a fighter yes, but he fought him in something he has no experience in and at the age of 50. So what's the relevance?

Ray was 46. The relevance is, a relative "non-fighter" beat a bonafide "fighter" in a fight. Being 46 and relatively out of shape shouldn't stop a professional fighter from beating some guy who's beating up on bums in the street. Should it?

Now, as to the rest of the discussion: the question first posed asks who would win a streetfight between Lee and Tyson. You laughed it off and said it was silly because Bruce was never even a fighter, that he never fought professionally. Well, here's a guy, Kimbo Slice, who never fought as a pro and beat a guy who did as a boxer (just like Tyson) in a very early paid fight. Kimbo's fighting ability didn't magically materialize because he was suddenly being paid. In fact, he was being paid precisely because he had fighting ability.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I think that's completely natural and just outright common sense.

A boxer can punch at the highest level and if they managed to hit the guy first they're likely going be out.

But if not, the cage fighter has the ability to take guys to the ground and skills to keep them there, and so on and so forth.

So naturally in a "street fight" the cage fighter would be favoured but who gives a **** about street fighting?

Everyone but me at the moment it looks like

Yes! Street fighting is the point of the thread.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I love boxing, and enjoy a good boxing match more than MMA, but if similar level fighters from either disciplines met on the street, I would have to favor the MMA guy. He wouldn't need to try and beat the boxer at his own game. The fight would soon go to the ground, maybe with the MMA guy catching one or two shots, and the fight would soon be over. I would imagine very few boxers have any real grappling skills. And, while MMA fighters obviously have fewer striking skills, most have enough to weather a brief storm and go for the submission. Or, in the case of the street, a possible kill.

That's the likeliest that can happen but but those grappling moves you see would be much harder to pull off without any rules involved.

[uncle pauly]

So many variables here!!

Is it in a room/confined space---huge advantage Tyson
Is it in a large room or area/parking lot, etc. ---some advantage for Bruce Lee

Bruce Lee could never attempt to "punch" with Tyson,...if he does he's dead---literally!!!
Bruce Lee has to attack: eyes, balls, knees, throat---if he didn't---he'd be dead literally.

Tyson can take Lee's Punch,...Bruce Cannot take Tyson's----no **** huh??

Tyson can break anything he hits on Bruce Lee---literally.
Tyson has enough speed to surprise Bruce Lee---believe it.

Tyson's abilities weren't of "demonstration" quality,...A lot of what Bruce did was for demonstration. Big divide here.

The bottom line is this---Probability says,..Bruce Lee would be seriousl hurt or killed. There is a slim possibility that Bruce Lee could pull off an eye strike, knee strike, Groin blow, throat strike. It's his one and only chance. I just see him getting hit. And it would be over with.

I say a 95% chance Tyson takes him out quick!! A 5% chance(or less) that Lee pulls it off.