Putting Golovkin's name in the same sentence with Mayweather is an insult to boxing

[_original_]

I advocate that fight, but HBO is waiting because it wouldn't generate much in terms of revenue at the moment or at least as much as it could down the line.

I also advocate this fight because I believe Floyd is way better than the competition at 147. I'd like to see Floyd challenged rather than dominating. It's hard to justify the purchase of a PPV if you know the main event will have no drama. I'll just wait to see the schooling a week later.

It isn't just GGG's strength, but also his overall offensive boxing skills.

Fair enough points. My issue is that the size gap is just too much of a factor to ignore. Why give an opponent so much of an advantage just because the top guys in your weight class aren't providing competition? Floyd is already pushing his physical limits at 154, his insane skills are just making up for it. GGG is a large MW and I believe he'll easily fill out at 168, where he's sure to find the top guys challenging him. He should be campaigning and putting on the pressure to fight Martinez if he's not ready to move up.

[JPsol]

I'll take you at your word even though I doubt it. Bradley has done the same against much better comp and is in floyd's weight class.

I'm waiting for the poster who will just admit that they think a bigger guy with one puch KO power has the best chance to get lucky.

Remember guys floyd has fought most of his life against opponents with more power. Maybe its time to learn more about other facets of the sport to unerstand how you deal with what floyd brings to the table.

IMO, the guys currently at 140-154 don't appear to have developed those other facets enough (at least not yet) to pose much of a challenge to Floyd.

I would admit GGG has a better chance of getting lucky than any of Floyd's previous opponents, but GGG doesn't rely on wild shots to win. He has good timing and knows where to place his shots.

Bradley is a good fighter, but I haven't seen anything from him that will significantly trouble Floyd. Pacquiao still looks like (provided he beats Rios convincingly) the most worthy challenger at 147 to me.

[Godsfly]

You are missing the point.

GGG shouldnt move up because he still has to show us he is elite and tops in his division.

So ehile GGG doesnt deserve a shot at Floyd right now, the main reason Floyd needs to move up is because he is so good that this is the only challenge he has left. Let ups also not forget the many ATGs that moved up and fought bigger foes. Why wouldnt we want to see the best there is challenge himself even more?

thats your opinion...........but why get mad when some of us want to see ggg at 168 because it's leap in quality opponents? (thats only one weight class above 160. ONE) ggg himself said that he only has 5 years left......would you like to see him spend that 5 years trying to clean out a weak division or move up and face fighters like kessler, froch? hell even bika would be good to watch...........if fighters have always moved up in weight whats the problem with one weight jump?

[illmaticfighter]

Have you been paying attention? From all that I've read, this isn't happening because HBO wants to build it up. I think even Ward has said he prefers to wait.

hbo?

ggg said he wants floyd but didn't mention ward

why isn't ggg chasing the fight forget hbo?

ggg's trainer said ward shouldn't get tunes up but never suggested his fighter fight him

im not saying ggg is ducking ward but that's a fight that can happen but no one wants it because the chance of ggg losing is so high

[The Big Dunn]

IMO, the guys currently at 140-154 don't appear to have developed those other facets enough (at least not yet) to pose much of a challenge to Floyd.

I would admit GGG has a better chance of getting lucky than any of Floyd's previous opponents, but GGG doesn't rely on wild shots to win. He has good timing and knows where to place his shots.

Bradley is a good fighter, but I haven't seen anything from him that will significantly trouble Floyd. Pacquiao still looks like (provided he beats Rios convincingly) the most worthy challenger at 147 to me.

with all due respect, tim has shown you more than GGG. GGG just has the size and one punch power. I find it hard to believe in fights with proska, ishida, rosado and whomever else that you have seen him show you something, other than power, that makes you think he beats floyd. if bradley is only good, given his record and how he acheived it, what is ggg, average?

Like I said, lets stop trying to pretend this is a logical discussion. GGG has size and power and most posters think that is what wins fights so they think its why ggg beats floyd.

this is the logic gbp used to sell the canelo fight to the masses.

[_original_]

You are missing the point.

GGG shouldnt move up because he still has to show us he is elite and tops in his division.

So ehile GGG doesnt deserve a shot at Floyd right now, the main reason Floyd needs to move up is because he is so good that this is the only challenge he has left. Let ups also not forget the many ATGs that moved up and fought bigger foes. Why wouldnt we want to see the best there is challenge himself even more?

It's plain to see that Floyd is a natural welterweight, and he should not have to compromise himself by going up against much larger foes. The majority of fighters who point that moved up successfully, with a few exceptions like Manny, all appeared to be outgrowing their weight class and it was in their best interest. Look, I'm not trying to sound like some overprotective Floyd fan, I'm just looking at it from a realistic standpoint. If GGG feels he can't get fights at 160, then he needs to move up where all the top guys would be more than willing to challenge him. He's well suited for 168, Floyd can't even eat himself up to 154 the day of the fight! Also, I feel as though GGG hasn't really campaigned for a Martinez fight like he should be doing. If the rumors about GGG VS Chavez are true, than that will be his opportunity to defeat Jr and put himself in line for a Martinez clash.

[Larry the boss]

Have you been paying attention? From all that I've read, this isn't happening because HBO wants to build it up. I think even Ward has said he prefers to wait.

Have i been paying attention??man boxing is all i have,i have no life,i breath boxing

[JPsol]

Fair enough points. My issue is that the size gap is just too much of a factor to ignore. Why give an opponent so much of an advantage just because the top guys in your weight class aren't providing competition? Floyd is already pushing his physical limits at 154, his insane skills are just making up for it. GGG is a large MW and I believe he'll easily fill out at 168, where he's sure to find the top guys challenging him. He should be campaigning and putting on the pressure to fight Martinez if he's not ready to move up.

I wouldn't call GGG a large MW. I think the most he has weighed on fight night is 170, which would make him a pretty small SMW if he moved up. H emay fill out a bit, but I don't see him being too much bigger.

Golovkin is focusing on the MW division right now, but the other top guys don't seem all that interested in fighting him. He'll likely have to move up or down (would likely only do this for Floyd or Canelo) if he wants a big fight.

[T18Z]

It's pathetic that people want to see Floyd face off with GGG, a guy substantially larger than him. They want to see Floyd in there with a much larger man trying to impose his ****** strength on him because they feel it's the only way Floyd can lose. When in actuality, Ward and GGG are much closer in size yet they don't advocate that fight cause they'd know Ward would shut GGG out.

Your argument FAILS.

GGG said he would move down to 154, practically the same as Canelo.

GGG weighed less than Canelo did vs Trout on fight night

Canelo is practically the same size, ROFL.

Canelo is ok but GGG is too big? Biggest bull**** ever.

[JPsol]

hbo?

ggg said he wants floyd but didn't mention ward

why isn't ggg chasing the fight forget hbo?

ggg's trainer said ward shouldn't get tunes up but never suggested his fighter fight him

im not saying ggg is ducking ward but that's a fight that can happen but no one wants it because the chance of ggg losing is so high

They fight on HBO and why would they all not want to maximize the fight's earning power? He also isn't chasing Ward because he still wants to unify the MW division, which is proving difficult to do given the HBO/Showtime dispute as well as the other top guys not seeming to have a strong desire to fight him.

I would favor Ward against GGG and I would like to see it in the next few years.