If Floyd avoids Martinez and fights Canelo.....

[SkillspayBills]

They are both good fights. If he fights Martinez they will say he ducked Canelo. SMH dude never wins.

[Bushbaby]

what a great cop out, you pull a double standard that can EASILY be flipped on Manny just as much as Floyd and then say the bold statement as if to say "Manny is guilty of it too but this ain't about Manny, Manny isn't the guy I love to hate so leave him out"



Canelo is a proven champion at 154 also, he beat many good names and is a rising and hot star, he has a whole country behind him. have you seen thousands of people travel across the country for Sergio Martinez? they were GIVING AWAY tickets in Modell's for Martinez-Barker

Canelo has his own fan base, his marketability is threw the roof, plus he has an extensive resume at this point. lets take a look..

Miguel Vasquez x2 (current Lightweight champion, Canelo beat him at 140!)
Ryan Rhodes
Kermit Cintron
Lovemore N'Dou
Carlos Baldomir (by 6th round KO! only the 2nd to do it)
Jose Miguel Cotto
Matthew Hatton
Alfonso Gomez
Luciano Cuello
Lanardo Tyner
Shane Mosley (IF he beats Shane on May 5th)

and you're telling me that he is not a worthy opponent? stop the bull**** already man Saul Canelo Alvarez is MORE than qualified for a big fight like that. what you gonna do? 1 word debunks of all the fighters he's faced? "shot", "finished", "cans"? or can we stick to reality and just call you out on your bull****? I'd like that alot..

Bradley proved himself but when there was an agenda involved even Bradley wasn't worthy of a Pacquiao fight to you all because he didn't fight Khan. Khan losses to someone Bradley beat and somehow the hate Bradley received disintegrated and once Bradley got the Manny fight now all of a sudden Bradley is a "tough test" for Manny with no mention of Khan? the point here is that once there is an agenda in play like there was with Bradley-Khan and Mayweather-Pacquiao the whole topic is rigged.

anyone can pick and debunk Bradley going by the logic that you're going by, you understand? if you picking and choosing little things to write someone off then it's effortless to write anyone you don't like off but when you stick to FACTS you'll see that Canelo is a world champion and has beaten more than 10 notable names, has a whole country behind him and a buzz from here to Mexico.

I heard Floyd saying Canelo needs about 2-3 more fights to be considered, the best outcome to that IMO would be Floyd fights Cotto, goes to jail, comes back to a soft touch to get him ready for Canelo and then Manny in mid-late 2013

That's a nice really long post that means nothing. You started off with a failure concerning Pacman. I'll let you figure that out.

Most of the fighters you named were from lightweights to shot to hell fighters. LOL at Cintron. Cotto was a lightweight. Rhodes was the only decent win. Hardly championship material. Hatton? Gomez? Canelo has a contenders resume. If you're impressed by those names at the time he fought them, that's a shame.

[Bushbaby]

They are both good fights. If he fights Martinez they will say he ducked Canelo. SMH dude never wins.

Name me 1 poster that you truly believe will say Floyd ducked Canelo if he fought Martinez.

[crillz]

Floyd fighting Martinez is the perfect example of pound for pound supremecy. If martinez wins he looks the bully for beating up a smaller fighter, as mayweather did against marquez. If mayweather wins, he gets props for fighting way above his normal natural weight (definition of pound for pound). Why not push for Manny to do this? Simply, physically, manny has peaked...he can't make that kind of weight and be optimal. Margarito was the perfect exception to this, but any other person of that weight class would have most likely given pacquiao great problems. I believe Mayweather has the physical attributes to better carry that higher weight, and can better challengs at middleweight. Let's put it this way, it's awfully hard to challenge Mayweather being top pound for pound if he beats sergio.

what a crock of **** man, honestly man that is how you going to justify it? like seriously? Manny has peaked so therefore he can't fight at that weight but Floyd, a WELTERWEIGHT also, can? they are both Welterweights here, everybody is disregarding the risk Floyd is already taking by fighting Cotto at a full 154, you don't think that is "great problems" for Floyd too? his fight against Oscar De La Hoya was a SD, not exactly a walk in the park at 154 now is it, maybe that's why he hasn't returned except for this Cotto fight.

I hate the notion of ANYTHING being too hard for Manny but not too hard for Floyd yet Manny is fighter of the decade and not Floyd? it's nothing to pile up the tough tasks on Floyd but it's painful for people to give him respect? Manny was tall for those low weights that's why he grew so well into his Welterweight frame, same as Mayweather whom has grown well into 147.

all Floyd got is longer arms and MAYBE a inch or two in height but there ain't much difference in their sizes, you only say what you say because you see Floyd doesn't encounter much troubles in the ring when he fights, he pulls threw and makes it out unscathed due to his skills and style. truth is it's equally tough on BOTH Floyd and Manny at this point to put on weight and do extraordinary things like that in this point in their career but that's true for BOTH not just Manny

[bojangles1987]

But he's fighting Cotto at 154, that means he can fight Martinez at the same weight, so you can stop making excuses now.

Floyd's possible excuses definitely went out the window since he's back at 154. Martinez, Pac, or go away.

[bojangles1987]

They are both good fights. If he fights Martinez they will say he ducked Canelo. SMH dude never wins.

You know that's not true at all.

[The Gambler1981]

You know that's not true at all.

Want to make a bet on that~

[The Gambler1981]

Why does Floyd have to fight Martinez~

I haven't seen Martinez at 154 in what two years? So you really think people will be jumping to give him credit for fighting Martinez at a weight below where he is considered the best, come on~

I have seen this story to many times before, there is no point because there is always somebody else eyeing to fight him that people also want to see~

[bojangles1987]

Want to make a bet on that~

No, because there's always alts and trolls, which people will quote and say, "See! No matter what he does he can't win! Poor Floyd!" Just like Wess, who has quotes from random people to try and make it look like everyone always pick against Floyd and don't give him credit when he wins.

I can't believe people are comparing the legitimacy of fighting Martinez and fighting Alvarez, as if they are close enough that it wouldn't matter which he picked. Anyone doing that has their head way too far up Floyd's ass and are saying it now because they expect Floyd to fight Alvarez. They're already preparing to defend him.

[bojangles1987]

Why does Floyd have to fight Martinez~

I haven't seen Martinez at 154 in what two years? So you really think people will be jumping to give him credit for fighting Martinez at a weight below where he is considered the best, come on~

I have seen this story to many times before, there is no point because there is always somebody else eyeing to fight him that people also want to see~

Floyd isn't your son, you don't have to go so far out of your way to defend him.