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    #91
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Boxing is definitely a mental thing but it also has to do with will, heart and determination. Ortiz got careless against Maidana. He was being fed so many easy fights and getting early round KO's that once he was put up against a fighter with heart and durability he folded when the pressure was on but I think this Berto win made him better from here on. Berto dropped the hammer on him in the 6th and looked like he had Ortiz beat but Victor pulled together and dropped berto again. I think mentally he is ready for Maidana after that. I also feel like people are not talking about the Lopez/Salido fight the same because that fight was a very good one as well.
    Agreed bro.

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      #92
      Originally posted by onechance87 View Post
      ortiz will beat him down,Ortiz is a new man
      A new man against a guy who backed off and tried to catch him with one big shot.

      A new man against a constant clincher.

      A new man against a guy who stayed on the ropes.

      I want to see if hes a new man against a guy who will constantly pressure him.

      Will Ortiz try and box or will he think"I'm bigger and stronger now so I'm going to stand toe to toe"?

      He proved his worth against Berto.

      But Berto and Maidana are two different fighters with two different mindsets.

      Berto could not capitalize on knocking Ortiz down.

      Berto ran when he got hurt.

      Maidana just fought harder.

      To dismiss him as a bum is ridiculous.

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        #93
        Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
        Agreed bro.
        Happy that we could agree. You have good points as well.

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          #94
          This looks like a marketing scheme. That picture has an HBO watermark on it. They're just trying to hype up the rematch IMO.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Southpawology View Post
            how exactly has vic moved on?? apparently he hasnt moved on because he cant even do an interview without mentioning maidanas name.

            maidana haunts ortiz
            No, he haunts you

            Moved on = jumped to 147, beat the #3 welter, became the #3 welter.

            He would be ****** to be looking at anyone else other than Pac/May.

            A rematch is fine, I got no problem with that.

            But chino needs to go to 147, and he needs to fit in.

            By fit in, I don't mean take short money, or anything like that.

            I just mean that he needs to fit in with the WBC champ's schedule.

            Let's go..... if chino comes to 147, then he gets some too

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              #96
              Originally posted by onechance87 View Post
              ortiz will beat him down,Ortiz is a new man
              Dude the Spurs are getting destroyed.

              What happened?

              Is it the end of the road?

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                #97
                Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                No, he haunts you

                Moved on = jumped to 147, beat the #3 welter, became the #3 welter.

                He would be ****** to be looking at anyone else other than Pac/May.

                A rematch is fine, I got no problem with that.

                But chino needs to go to 147, and he needs to fit in.

                By fit in, I don't mean take short money, or anything like that.

                I just mean that he needs to fit in with the WBC champ's schedule.

                Let's go..... if chino comes to 147, then he gets some too

                I agree that the rematch should happen at 147.

                But Maidana shouldn't have to fight anyone to get to Ortiz.

                If Ortiz gets a bigger name (Cotto/Mayweather/Pac) Than i have no problem with that.

                If He's forced to fight his mando that's cool to.

                But if he fights Paulie or some other lesser known fighter over Maidana that won't look good.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by ThePhantom5 View Post
                  A new man against a guy who backed off and tried to catch him with one big shot.

                  A new man against a constant clincher.

                  A new man against a guy who stayed on the ropes.

                  I want to see if hes a new man against a guy who will constantly pressure him.

                  Will Ortiz try and box or will he think"I'm bigger and stronger now so I'm going to stand toe to toe"?

                  He proved his worth against Berto.

                  But Berto and Maidana are two different fighters with two different mindsets.

                  Berto could not capitalize on knocking Ortiz down.

                  Berto ran when he got hurt.

                  Maidana just fought harder.


                  To dismiss him as a bum is ridiculous.
                  Maidana had no other option, he doesn't really have a Plan B, and I wonder how close he was to folding in that fight?

                  If Vic did learn from that fight, then what tools will Maidana use to stop Vic from knocking him down multiple times and beating him up in the rematch?

                  Maidana was getting abused in that fight, and would have been KTFO by anyone else that night.

                  He got KD 3x vs a green Ortiz at 140, what options will Maidana have after the 4-5 KD in a rematch, Vic will obviously improve his option taking next time out?

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                    #99
                    that's so funny sht.

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                      Originally posted by ThePhantom5 View Post
                      I agree that the rematch should happen at 147.

                      But Maidana shouldn't have to fight anyone to get to Ortiz.

                      If Ortiz gets a bigger name (Cotto/Mayweather/Pac) Than i have no problem with that.

                      If He's forced to fight his mando that's cool to.

                      But if he fights Paulie or some other lesser known fighter over Maidana that won't look good.
                      Agree 100%.

                      No chino gets that fight because of what happened last time out, he's likely not even ranked at welter.

                      Yup other than Pac/May/mando, chino is top of the list as far as I'm concerned.

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