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Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View PostI found the compubox numbers to be exaggerated so I picked a random round to analyze. I downloaded an HD 60fps version of the fight and I watched the round in extremely slow motion (please put the jokes aside). When it looked like a punch landed, I watched it frame by frame to make sure it did.
Here are the results of every punch landed with a short description of the punch. Only kept tract of the punches landed. Don't care about thrown.
2:32 Bradley body punch
2:32 Bradly body Punch
2:16 Bradley jab
1:59 Pacquia right hook
1:46 Bradley right
1:43 Bradley left
1:38 Bradley jab
1:37 Bradly grazing right hook
1:29 Braldey southpaw left
1:29 Bradley right
1:21 Bradley jab
1:19 Bradley jab
0:59 Bradley jab
0:43 Bradley jab
0:36 Pacquiao right hook
0:33 Pacquiao right hook
0:22 Pacquiao right hook
0:14 Pacquiao left hook
0:12 Bradley right hook
0:12 Pacquiao right hook
0:10 Pacquiao left hook
0:10 Pacquiao right hook
0:01 Pacquia straight left
0:01 Bradley body shot
0:01 Bradlye body shot
In the end, Pacquiao landed 9 punches and Bradley landed 16. There were a few punches that were hard to call, but this is about right. Notice that Pacquiao only landed 1 punch in the first 2 minutes and 24 seconds of the fight. The punches landed after came from a flurry that didn't really land that cleanly. Bradley actually landed the cleaner punches in this round surprisingly. This is actually a pretty clear round that should go to Bradley after close scrutiny. Compubox somehow got 22 punches for Pac and 8 for Bradley. So yeah, lets stop paying attention to compubox numbers.
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Originally posted by hhs661 View PostThis fight was odd and although I still believe Manny won, there were still plenty of times when none of the announcers face Tim any credit for going to the body.
Fight seemed odd from the 5th round on when Bradley seemed gassed, and Manny taking 1:30-2:00 minutes off before getting started
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Originally posted by Paclan View Postpacquiao landed ALL the effective shots and none of bradley's had any power.
If you scored that round like every other round, Pacquiao would have won 120-108
Bradley couldn't do ****, that's why I don't see a point in a rematch. One good left and Bradley's leg stiffened, Pacquiao just doesn't have the extra gear to finish anymore. Still beat a pretty damn good fighter IMO.
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That's nice, but judges don't watch in super slow motion. They have a worse view being below the ring than we do watching at home. I've always said judges need to be placed in soundproof rooms around the arena and watch it that way on monitors.
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My God, you're actually counting those half assed jabbed that merely sc****d Pacquiao's gloves over and over as 'landed punches'?
And I know that you're trying to make it seem like Bradley would have a more impressive compubox stats, but even if you don't count compubox Pacquiao is even MORE dominant in the fight because of how many times he rocked Bradley and was actually landing great punches. Pac won by a very wide margin in normal scoring as well as compubox-wise.Last edited by BKM-2010; 06-11-2012, 07:36 AM.
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That's the problem right there, discredit anything Bradley landed or did because he doesn't have power
You know how ignorant that sounds.
Effective does not equal power.
Watch round 2. Bradley landed between 28-31 punches.
The problem with Compubox is
1.) Viewing angles and obstructions
2.) Head movement away from a punch at the wrong angle can look like a landed punch.
3.) Flurries make for inaccurate landed and also can be in accurate towards misses
4.) Most landed doesn't matter, never has
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