Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[Wiley Hyena]

Numbers are down because the fights being put on for free are pure **** and also because HBO stopped showing Wlad and Vitali who got some of the highest numbers for any HBO boxer. From around the 2003 mark fights with Mayweather, Pac, Vitali, Wlad and Cotto would get around 2-3 million viewers. Now Mayweather, Pac and Cotto are major PPV draws who don't fight for free any more. Wlad and Vitali have been cut.

Numbers are down because HBO are now taking any fight which might get more than 2 million viewers and slapping them on PPV instead. Perfect cases of this are Dawson-Hopkins 1 (not 2), JMM vs Fedchenko, Morales vs Maidana. Soon Canelo should be busting the 2 million viewers mark but HBO decide to force him onto PPV straight away. Chavez Jr might get more than 2 million viewers against Lee but I can see him getting shoved onto PPV straight away too. Not even to mention the effect cancelled fights like Berto-Ortiz and Khan-Peterson could have had. In the end HBO are looking for the quick buck rather than building their fighters properly.

Also, numbers are in fact up on HBO since I think around 2009, when they were averaging less than 1 million per fight. This year major fights have been averaging closer to 1.5 million. Also last I heard ESPN, FOX deportees, and Showtime TV ratings have been up as well, so it indicates the problem lies purely on HBO's end.

Here is how HBO could have made their ratings look big again, and it's fully within their power if they just reject PPV:

Morales - Maidana - 2 million viewers
JMM - Fedchenko - 2.5 million (curiosity for JMM was huge after Pac)
Ortiz - Canelo - 2.8 million
Chavez Jr - Maidana - 2.9 million
Haye - Chisora - 2.5 million
(Winner) - Vitali or Wlad - 3 million
(loser) - Vitali or Wlad - 2 million

Son. The numbers are down cause fewer people have the money to throw around to see a fight. We are in a global recession/depression.

[americanbot]

about half as much as bradley's

i don't think so......the compubox is a complete FRAUD. bradley landed more overall blows then pac. the thing is pacs shots were harder.

[No-mas-tias]

Atlas was saying on ESPN that Pacquiao's contract with Arum is about to expire, is it true?

[croz]

and also, say hello to my little friend before you start spouting that boxing is dead crap:

[Mike Haynes]

Hey!! Here's 3 signatures from me:

[Hougigo]

You guys are some easily swayed dudes lol

I don't even listen to the commentary. The fact that you have to force yourself to not listen just so your opinion isn't changed just shows how easily your opinion can be changed.

No, I just want to listen to it muted because I don't want to hear Jim lameply gurgling on Pac's jizz and the crowd erupting every time he moved.

[tennesseeboy]

Pac 2 years ago woulda wrecked this cat. Pac has lost a lot and was still obviously the superior fighter.

[jaded]

Are you ten years old now because this doesn't come close to some of the stuff even in the 90s?

Let's just say that when I was a kid Muhammad Ali went by the name of Cassius Clay. I gave 2 rounds max to Bradley and I'm being generous.

[puga]

And I'm sure you report me every time I have ever said something out of line, they even make threads about me when I say something bad just so all of you make sure and red k/report me...I'm still here and quite green, I figure I can't be that bad of a poster if I got all that going for me in spite of the disproval of a certain fighter's ******ed ass fans.

here's the thing...you call pople ******ed when you show igonrance about a group of people everyday...everyday you complain, you say racist things about pinoys, altho you are , i admit pretty slick abou it...BUT quit your whining about racism when it is done to you...

[Jam Jars]

The rounds Pac won he won big, fans only remember the big moments and forget about the dull rounds. I had the fight 6 rds each but thought Pacquiao would get the nod. I was surprised that the judges had the balls to score the fight the way they did. Pacquiao basically gave the fight away in the second half, he only has himself to blame.