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    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
    What reasons does Pacquiao have?
    Simply, that he believes that when a part of him is taken out of him, for example, blood, it can sap his strength and therefore, affect him mentally. This is a cultural thing.

    Many Asians and Filipinos are seen as fatalists. Many filipinos (those who are living in the Philippines) believe in fate, in good luck and bad luck, in talisman and in feng shui.

    There are people who feel powerful by doing certain rituals before any endeavour and who forsee victory and success in the manifestations of mother nature.

    It is bad omen to sweep the floor before you go to the ****pit to fight game chickens which is a national sport in the Philippines. To some people, it is bad omen to cut your fingernails or even hair before a big undertaking.

    Many filipino farmers look and consider the rain as a sign of good things to come, of success. Some filipino politicians at the start of their political undertakings believed in this "rain" thing, that's why they believed they never lost in an election. Somehow, they feel more confident whenever rains drop on the launching of any endeavour.

    Manny Pacquiao believes in fate having been born in a culture marked by belief in superpowers and superstition. This explains his abhorence to shed blood so close to the fight. It is not that he is taking drugs and wants to hide it to cheat. It is just that he believes that shedding blood saps his power and that it would make him vulnerable.
    Last edited by namme; 02-18-2010, 12:30 PM.

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      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      No, the way to go about it is putting your money where your mouth is. Ie...take the tests and demand your opponents do the same.
      What test? You mean this one?

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        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        So Floyd shouldn't ask his opponents to take the tests and he shouldn't be willing to take them himself. Got it.
        Floyd should not start a precedent of taking tests the way he has. Accusing a hard working fellow fighter based on kicking ass better then he has without evidence is just a ***** move. If asking manny to take the tests was not a result of Paranoia or jealousy and truly an attempt for Floyd to clean sports in general, there would be nobody complaining about it.
        Last edited by Alibata; 02-18-2010, 12:32 PM.

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          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          No problem, bud. Took me years to figure it out.



          Floyd has the same influence as Manny Pacquiao. When both are on opposite poles, the commission will stay put. Truthfully, commissions are nothing. They do whatever the promoters tell them. Ironically, Floyd has already taken his case to the media. And the public, who matter most. But the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, my friend. And what better way to FORCE the commission than for the sport's two biggest stars to agree to testing? Sadly, one of them isn't willing to do so yet we're concentrating on the other guy? Strange.



          Many fighters have asked for more stringent testing. It's not something new. And random blood and urine testing is done in boxing a lot more often than you think - just not in the U.S. And who cares what Pacquiao's reasons are? You do realize that if the Commissions implement what you're sayign Floyd should ask them to do...that Manny Pacquiao would have to retire? After all, he can't take those tests right? (For his own reasons.)



          Why don't you look it up, my friend? The results mays hock you.



          So you think it's ok for a fighter to turn down these tests for their "own reasons?" Interesting...and exactly why cheaters can cheat.
          You might want to read my response to Dominican Soy, so you can't just make any conclusions just because someone refuses to do such a kind of blood testing.

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            Originally posted by Matisyahu View Post
            That's bull. They both went up weight classes. Floyd is just incredulous that someone can do the same as him and seems to have the insight into the gaps in drug testing himself, which is su****ious. Furthermore if Pac has accomplished more it is for the very simple reason that he has more balls. Who know who Floyd might beat if he had some, maybe Pacquiao.
            Floyd came back because he knows he can beat Manny. Have you ever had blood taken? Did it prevent you from functioning normally? Now you know why people think Manny is full of ****. Floyd is by far the biggest draw in boxing and wanted Manny so bad the he gave him everything he asked for all Floyd wanted was random testing and if you can look yourself in the mirror and say that Manny shouldn't have submitted to it then it says a whole lot about you. Manny has only beaten fighters that have already been beaten. If that makes him great in your eyesight then you know nothing about boxing.

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              Originally posted by Alibata View Post
              Floyd should not start a precedent of taking tests the way he has. Accusing a hard working fellow fighter based on kicking ass better then he has without evidence is just a ***** move. If asking manny to take the tests was not a result of Paranoia or jealousy and truly an attempt for Floyd to clean sports in general, there would be nobody complaining about it.
              How is he setting a precedent, exactly?

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                Originally posted by namme View Post
                You might want to read my response to Dominican Soy, so you can't just make any conclusions just because someone refuses to do such a kind of blood testing.
                I've debated every angle on this. I was actually ****ting on Floyd before all of this occurred. But right is right. And Manny doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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                  Originally posted by namme View Post
                  Simply, that he believes that when a part of him is taken out of him, for example, blood, it can sap his strength and therefore, affect him mentally. This is a cultural thing.

                  Many Asians and Filipinos are seen as fatalists. Many filipinos (those who are living in the Philippines) believe in fate, in good luck and bad luck, in talisman and in feng shui.

                  There are people who feel powerful by doing certain rituals before any endeavour and who forsee victory and success in the manifestations of mother nature.

                  It is bad omen to sweep the floor before you go to the ****pit to fight game chickens which is a national sport in the Philippines. To some people, it is bad omen to cut your fingernails or even hair before a big undertaking.

                  Many filipino farmers look and consider the rain as a sign of good things to come, of success. Some filipino politicians at the start of their political undertakings believed in this "rain" thing, that's why they believed they never lost in an election. Somehow, they feel more confident whenever rains drop on the launching of any endeavour.

                  Manny Pacquiao believes in fate having been born in a culture marked by belief in superpowers and superstition. This explains his abhorence to shed blood so close to the fight. It is not that he is taking drugs and wants to hide it to cheat. It is just that he believes that shedding blood saps his power and that it would make him vulnerable.
                  Then he shouldn't be participating in a blood sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    Originally posted by namme View Post
                    Man, I cannot answer that cause I never had any personal knowledge of Mosley's personal life. But for me, I have already been a fan of Pacquiao since he was in the fighting as a flyweight. I've seen him personally how he worked in the Gym. He has always been that dedicated to his profession. There were few times that Pacquiao had been distracted but that was in the middle and late 90's where he had problems with how to maintain his weight.

                    Articles and interviews had shown how his poor and difficult life and background has pushed him indeed pushed him to where he is now. I never thought that he is on drugs. Culturally, only Americans would think that way, and never a true filipino. Pacquiao has a high tolerance to pain and its because of his background which will always remain a big influence to his dedication to his profession. If it happens and is found out in the future that he is taking PEDs, then I'd be disappointed...but until that time happens, I would reserve my judgment on the man.
                    What does Mosley's personal life have to do with it? My point is that this has nothing to do with who you are a fan of or how bad of a background someone has came from. Mosley has been known as a gym rat and is still considered one. At the sametime Mosley has used steriods. I am not saying that Manny has used steriods. All I trying to get at and get people to see is that it doesn't matter who you like and dislike if you look at it without bias it is possible that ANY boxer could be on something. It doesn't matter if you believe he is or isn't. I don't judge him either but if asked do I think he should have taken the test I will say YES. That doesn't mean he is gulity because he said no. I really didn't want to take it there but you speaking on Manny's background and things of that nature. So I end it like this, Manny always talks about his belief in God but yet he has cheated on his wife multiple times. So that says like any person he is not perfect and has lapses in moral judgement. So why is so shocking that some people could believe that he had lapses of moral judgement when it came to steriods? His wife should be more important to him than boxing if he so religious.

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                      Originally posted by namme View Post
                      Simply, that he believes that when a part of him is taken out of him, for example, blood, it can sap his strength and therefore, affect him mentally. This is a cultural thing.

                      Many Asians and Filipinos are seen as fatalists. Many filipinos (those who are living in the Philippines) believe in fate, in good luck and bad luck, in talisman and in feng shui.

                      There are people who feel powerful by doing certain rituals before any endeavour and who forsee victory and success in the manifestations of mother nature.

                      It is bad omen to sweep the floor before you go to the ****pit to fight game chickens which is a national sport in the Philippines. To some people, it is bad omen to cut your fingernails or even hair before a big undertaking.

                      Many filipino farmers look and consider the rain as a sign of good things to come, of success. Some filipino politicians at the start of their political undertakings believed in this "rain" thing, that's why they believed they never lost in an election. Somehow, they feel more confident whenever rains drop on the launching of any endeavour.

                      Manny Pacquiao believes in fate having been born in a culture marked by belief in superpowers and superstition. This explains his abhorence to shed blood so close to the fight. It is not that he is taking drugs and wants to hide it to cheat. It is just that he believes that shedding blood saps his power and that it would make him vulnerable.
                      Again, he said he didn't wanted to be tested the day of/ the day before the fight...but declined Mayweather's 14 day cutoff. Does that make any sense? His reason was "I train very hard".

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