Comments Thread For: Ariza: Pacquiao's Performance Will Frighten Mayweather

[namme]

This doesn't mean you're right but at least you acknowledge it as a belief, not a truth like some idiots.

How exactly does something like this get implemented? Just curious, because it seems people somehow like to pretend Floyd just has to go to the commission (maybe state to state), petition it and that's that. Let's see how much you care.


The question isn't how many boxer's are taking the tests. Here's a better one...how many boxers have turned down the tests?

You obviously haven't done your homework, which is surprising for someone who cares. Maybe you should do your own research on this. Just read the news.


How do you feel that he has turned down the testing?

Man, I don't know how you were able to respond to what I've posted, one by one. (I'm a little illiterate in putting things in order the way you just did).

Anyway, to respond to what you said. Floyd has the influence to pressure all boxing commissions if he wants to. He is an American. (Remember, he even wanted Americans to be behind him in his fight like soldiers to to their country.) He can start with the Nevada Commission. He can use the media if he wants to. And let boxing commission respond to it. If he is really into cleaning the sports then he can always organize boxing fans, those who believe in him to do a campaign about it.

Why would you ask, how many boxers turned down the test, when it was just offered only to Pacquiao and Mosley and not to the rest of the boxers. That is simply singling out that Pacquiao, that he is really hiding something which I see as very speculative and inconclusive. Pacquiao has his reasons why (some it are cultural--which the western world can never understand) and some people don't want to believe on it or respect his reason. So that's where everyone gets to argue, rationalize and speculate.

Thirdly, You might want to share to me your homework regarding Olympic Drug Testing, tell me if all the professional sports are using it today.

You asked me, what I felt when Pacquiao turned that test? Well my first reaction was to respect that decision he made, because he has his reasons, and I can never make any judgment on a person without any iota of evidence that he is on PEDs.

[icebergisonfire]

I've stated this before and I'll do so again. Movements start from the actions of one or a few people. The Civil Rights Movement started because an elderly lady didn't want to give up her seat. As with everything monumental that has changed in society, someone or a group of people decided that the status quo just isn't good enough anymore and we need to do better. The NSAC is the status quo and from all accounts, the boxing world needs to do better. We are here because we are supposed to be fans of the sport so we should all want everyone to be at their best, their natural best and when I see people come across and agrue against that, it bothers the hell out of me. I can't take anyone's argument seriously when they are armchair posting and arguing against science. Reputable people have come out and said the NSAC is a joke. Is Boxing going to do what Baseball did and just look the other way while it enjoys some sort of renaissance? Continuing to use the NSAC seems to be continuing a mockery of the ethics involved with the sweet science. Even the former commissioner of the NSAC said what the NSAC does presentally is a joke. All parties involved need to do better.

I'm not on the Floyd is trying to clean up boxing shtick that he is rolling with, but I will applaud him for proving for the rest of his career that it is his natural talent and skills that have gotten him to this point in his career. Undefeated and boxing's higher earner. I'm glad that I can do that for my favorite boxer, to say that he is clean according to cutting edge tests. Don't you wish you could do the same for your favorite boxer? As long as they abide by the NSAC, you can't make that declaration, you would be factually wrong.

[namme]

It will be speculation until further tests are taken, no?

Yes, and until that happens, only then can I make a judgment on the person.

[slipjab73]

Pacquiao's strength coach should be making sure that he is taking care of Pacquiao not wondering what Mayweather is thinking about. Both fighter's show up to their fights in tremendous shape and wioll fight their own style that has made them successful. It doesn't matter how many knockouts Pacquiao has the bottom line is he hasn't knocked out Mayweather. Pacquaio better keep his focus on Clottey because he is a legitimate threat. Even if Pacquaio wins, Clottey could still inflict some major punishment on him.

[wengz2002]

Guys, I really like the proposition coming from Roach about the Pac-Money fight... He said they would agree for a Winner Take All fight!!!

See the interview from KTLA.com:


Let see if Mayweather is really Money!



Sounds Great to me~~~

[Doctor_Tenma]

Man, I don't know how you were able to respond to what I've posted, one by one. (I'm a little illiterate in putting things in order the way you just did).

Anyway, to respond to what you said. Floyd has the influence to pressure all boxing commissions if he wants to. He is an American. (Remember, he even wanted Americans to be behind him in his fight like soldiers to to their country.) He can start with the Nevada Commission. He can use the media if he wants to. And let boxing commission respond to it. If he is really into cleaning the sports then he can always organize boxing fans, those who believe in him to do a campaign about it.

Why would you ask, how many boxers turned down the test, when it was just offered only to Pacquiao and Mosley and not to the rest of the boxers. That is simply singling out that Pacquiao, that he is really hiding something which I see as very speculative and inconclusive. Pacquiao has his reasons why (some it are cultural--which the western world can never understand) and some people don't want to believe on it or respect his reason. So that's where everyone gets to argue, rationalize and speculate.

Thirdly, You might want to share to me your homework regarding Olympic Drug Testing, tell me if all the professional sports are using it today.

You asked me, what I felt when Pacquiao turned that test? Well my first reaction was to respect that decision he made, because he has his reasons, and I can never make any judgment on a person without any iota of evidence that he is on PEDs.

What reasons does Pacquiao have?

[Alibata]

I don't know either fighter personally so their character is not a concern for me. I would flame Floyd if it was Pacquiao doing the asking. Bottom line. Hard for you to believe but biased people always assume that everyone else is like them.

So the way someone should go about asking to make a "change in sports (not just boxing)" is to talk smack and accuse someone without evidence before asking him to do something. That is a real man right there in Floyd. Definitely a guy that don't deserve any respect. If the shoe was on the other foot and Manny was spittin ****, I would not condone Manny's doing that and be against it. I for one think manny should take the tests to end all this BS but I give him every benefit of the doubt for what ever reasons he has for not doing it. I don't blame him specially the way Floyd went about doing things.

[slipjab73]

Man, I don't know how you were able to respond to what I've posted, one by one. (I'm a little illiterate in putting things in order the way you just did).

Anyway, to respond to what you said. Floyd has the influence to pressure all boxing commissions if he wants to. He is an American. (Remember, he even wanted Americans to be behind him in his fight like soldiers to to their country.) He can start with the Nevada Commission. He can use the media if he wants to. And let boxing commission respond to it. If he is really into cleaning the sports then he can always organize boxing fans, those who believe in him to do a campaign about it.

Why would you ask, how many boxers turned down the test, when it was just offered only to Pacquiao and Mosley and not to the rest of the boxers. That is simply singling out that Pacquiao, that he is really hiding something which I see as very speculative and inconclusive. Pacquiao has his reasons why (some it are cultural--which the western world can never understand) and some people don't want to believe on it or respect his reason. So that's where everyone gets to argue, rationalize and speculate.

Thirdly, You might want to share to me your homework regarding Olympic Drug Testing, tell me if all the professional sports are using it today.

You asked me, what I felt when Pacquiao turned that test? Well my first reaction was to respect that decision he made, because he has his reasons, and I can never make any judgment on a person without any iota of evidence that he is on PEDs.

You don't have to know that a particular athlete is on PEDs. The reality is, Mayweather may have used the whole drug test as a mind game thing against Pacquiao but he inadvertently opened up Pandoras Box. Shane Mosely didn't appear to be a drug cheat but as we now know, he did in the past. I don't buy his I didn't know what my trainers were giving me story. Professional sports have so much money involved in them that athletes will use unfair means to keep up and surpass their competition. Although the reasoning for asking had no good intentions, it has started something that should have been addressed a long time ago.

[LilFloyd]

nothing new here...everyone knows floyd is scared of pac.

[namme]

Did you believe Mosley was on anything for the 2nd De la Hoya fight? Don't answer that question from the information that you have right now. Go back and think about how you felt about it back then. Its doesn't matter who you are a fan of. I personally didn't think Mosley was on anything had no reason to think Mosley was on anything. Just like now I have no reason to think Manny is on anything. But Mosley was admitted he was on something.

Man, I cannot answer that cause I never had any personal knowledge of Mosley's personal life. But for me, I have already been a fan of Pacquiao since he was in the fighting as a flyweight. I've seen him personally how he worked in the Gym. He has always been that dedicated to his profession. There were few times that Pacquiao had been distracted but that was in the middle and late 90's where he had problems with how to maintain his weight.

Articles and interviews had shown how his poor and difficult life and background has pushed him indeed pushed him to where he is now. I never thought that he is on drugs. Culturally, only Americans would think that way, and never a true filipino. Pacquiao has a high tolerance to pain and its because of his background which will always remain a big influence to his dedication to his profession. If it happens and is found out in the future that he is taking PEDs, then I'd be disappointed...but until that time happens, I would reserve my judgment on the man.