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    Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
    One of the things that again separates Floyd from Manny is we all know that Floyd is clean but people have to assume Manny is and no one can come up with a reason why. Why do people say they don't think Manny is using and not I know Manny isn't. That alone should want Manny who seems to be ignoring his look of guilt, wanna prove to the world that he is clean and if he didn't wanna do it because of Floyd (which is BS) why didn't he just submit to random testing for the Clottey fight just to prove to the world, his legacy and his fans that he's clean?
    That's bull. They both went up weight classes. Floyd is just incredulous that someone can do the same as him and seems to have the insight into the gaps in drug testing himself, which is su****ious. Furthermore if Pac has accomplished more it is for the very simple reason that he has more balls. Who know who Floyd might beat if he had some, maybe Pacquiao.

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      Originally posted by Matisyahu View Post
      That's bull. They both went up weight classes. Floyd is just incredulous that someone can do the same as him and seems to have insight into the gaps in drug testing himself which is su****ious. Furthermore if Pac has accomplished more it is for the very simple reason that he has more balls. Who know who Floyd might beat if he had some, maybe Pacquiao.
      you mean the weight gain?

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        Originally posted by namme View Post
        [Man, I don't know how you were able to respond to what I've posted, one by one. (I'm a little illiterate in putting things in order the way you just did).
        No problem, bud. Took me years to figure it out.

        Anyway, to respond to what you said. Floyd has the influence to pressure all boxing commissions if he wants to. He is an American. (Remember, he even wanted Americans to be behind him in his fight like soldiers to to their country.) He can start with the Nevada Commission. He can use the media if he wants to. And let boxing commission respond to it. If he is really into cleaning the sports then he can always organize boxing fans, those who believe in him to do a campaign about it.
        Floyd has the same influence as Manny Pacquiao. When both are on opposite poles, the commission will stay put. Truthfully, commissions are nothing. They do whatever the promoters tell them. Ironically, Floyd has already taken his case to the media. And the public, who matter most. But the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, my friend. And what better way to FORCE the commission than for the sport's two biggest stars to agree to testing? Sadly, one of them isn't willing to do so yet we're concentrating on the other guy? Strange.

        Why would you ask, how many boxers turned down the test, when it was just offered only to Pacquiao and Mosley and not to the rest of the boxers. That is simply singling out that Pacquiao, that he is really hiding something which I see as very speculative and inconclusive. Pacquiao has his reasons why (some it are cultural--which the western world can never understand) and some people don't want to believe on it or respect his reason. So that's where everyone gets to argue, rationalize and speculate.
        Many fighters have asked for more stringent testing. It's not something new. And random blood and urine testing is done in boxing a lot more often than you think - just not in the U.S. And who cares what Pacquiao's reasons are? You do realize that if the Commissions implement what you're sayign Floyd should ask them to do...that Manny Pacquiao would have to retire? After all, he can't take those tests right? (For his own reasons.)

        Thirdly, You might want to share to me your homework regarding Olympic Drug Testing, tell me if all the professional sports are using it today.
        Why don't you look it up, my friend? The results mays hock you.

        You asked me, what I felt when Pacquiao turned that test? Well my first reaction was to respect that decision he made, because he has his reasons, and I can never make any judgment on a person without any iota of evidence that he is on PEDs.
        So you think it's ok for a fighter to turn down these tests for their "own reasons?" Interesting...and exactly why cheaters can cheat.

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          Originally posted by Alibata View Post
          So the way someone should go about asking to make a "change in sports (not just boxing)" is to talk smack and accuse someone without evidence before asking him to do something. That is a real man right there in Floyd. Definitely a guy that don't deserve any respect. If the shoe was on the other foot and Manny was spittin ****, I would not condone Manny's doing that and be against it. I for one think manny should take the tests to end all this BS but I give him every benefit of the doubt for what ever reasons he has for not doing it. I don't blame him specially the way Floyd went about doing things.
          No, the way to go about it is putting your money where your mouth is. Ie...take the tests and demand your opponents do the same.

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            Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
            you mean the weight gain?
            Right they both weighed 106 at 16.

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              Dude you're wack and your comment ****ing sucks, it's clear you know nothing about boxing. Do us all a favor and stay out fo boxing threads.

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                Originally posted by icebergisonfire View Post
                I've stated this before and I'll do so again. Movements start from the actions of one or a few people. The Civil Rights Movement started because an elderly lady didn't want to give up her seat. As with everything monumental that has changed in society, someone or a group of people decided that the status quo just isn't good enough anymore and we need to do better. The NSAC is the status quo and from all accounts, the boxing world needs to do better. We are here because we are supposed to be fans of the sport so we should all want everyone to be at their best, their natural best and when I see people come across and agrue against that, it bothers the hell out of me. I can't take anyone's argument seriously when they are armchair posting and arguing against science. Reputable people have come out and said the NSAC is a joke. Is Boxing going to do what Baseball did and just look the other way while it enjoys some sort of renaissance? Continuing to use the NSAC seems to be continuing a mockery of the ethics involved with the sweet science. Even the former commissioner of the NSAC said what the NSAC does presentally is a joke. All parties involved need to do better.

                I'm not on the Floyd is trying to clean up boxing shtick that he is rolling with, but I will applaud him for proving for the rest of his career that it is his natural talent and skills that have gotten him to this point in his career. Undefeated and boxing's higher earner. I'm glad that I can do that for my favorite boxer, to say that he is clean according to cutting edge tests. Don't you wish you could do the same for your favorite boxer? As long as they abide by the NSAC, you can't make that declaration, you would be factually wrong.
                Damn my dude very well said :-) Like you it bothers the hell out of me to see so many people not wanting to see boxing become a better sport. If this was Manny asking Floyd I would be standing with Manny on this.

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                  another smoke screen. he's right about the fight may never happen but its for another reason.the answer is that they know pac can't beat mayweather period.

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                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    No, the way to go about it is putting your money where your mouth is. Ie...take the tests and demand your opponents do the same.
                    Not when that mouth is spitting accusations and demanding tests based on paranoia. There are better ways to going about things and Floyd is full of ****. Cleaning the sport my ass.

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                      Originally posted by Alibata View Post
                      Not when that mouth is spitting accusations and demanding tests based on paranoia. There are better ways to going about things and Floyd is full of ****. Cleaning the sport my ass.
                      So Floyd shouldn't ask his opponents to take the tests and he shouldn't be willing to take them himself. Got it.

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