Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Drops Daniel Dubois Twice, Knocks Him Out in Ninth

[Rockenator]

Usyk was not going to lose this fight either way... The ref and judges would bail him out anyway. This entire thing was a propaganda stunt and I feel bad for Usyk being used that way himself.

In any case, Fury mauls Usyk.... videos were leaking about Usyk getting knocked down in training camp and Dubois just showed exactly what to do.

Feel bad for the kid, but he also did not take the opportunity to close it... even after the 5 minutes Usyk got to recuperate.

Dubois didn't earn this fight. He is a weak heavyweight with a feather chin. He has very little boxing skills outside of a strong right hand. No combinations, lousy and slow jab, no head movement, no defense, low punch output and zero ringmanship. So what did we get from Usyk & Joshua? Marginal opponents like Helenius and Dubois. Really?

[steeve steel]

Voilà!

[Rockenator]

Yes, after watching this one, I think Fury would handle him if they ever were to fight.

Personally, I dont think Usyk looked as good in this one. Physique and footwork. Seemed to be taking some deep breaths even by second round. Maybe Im wrong, but he looked less accurate too.

I thought Usyk really dropped his guard in the later rounds. Of course Dubois couldn't do anything with that as he can't put any combinations together. A single punch boxer hoping to land the big one like we hope to win the lotto. The uppercut was there all night and someone like Fury and Wilder (and even Anderson) would capitalize on that. I think Usyk is a skilled boxer with a decent defense but against a real heavyweight, he'd struggle mightily.

[Rockenator]

Voilà!

Look how high up those trunks are. They're almost covering his ti**s.

[_Rexy_]

Hey Rexy, I thought the end of this fight was similar to the end of AJ vs Ruiz in some respects, and very different in others.

Similarities: A big, powerful British HW ran out of gas in a world title fight after doing well early on and stumbled to his knees after taking a shot to the head that probably wouldn't have bothered him too much if he'd still been fresh.

Differences: One guy stayed on his knees after going down and allowed the ref to count him out. The other dragged himself up at the count of 8 and nodded his head when the ref asked him if he wanted to box on.

What do you think, mate?

Tough comparison because AJ had been dropped four times and ignored the refs commands, I understood the ref for stopping the fight based on that and AJ's body language. AJ looked like the fight had been taken out of him, and his body language looked like he was finished but he also plead that it shouldn't have been stopped.

Dubois on the other hand; after the seventh round I texted EffPandas and said "If that KD wasn't with 5 seconds left, I think Dubois stays down. He's looked like he's wanted to quit for a while now." and then in the next round, he took a knee and quit off a stiff jab. No argument over the stoppage either. Just walked to his corner content like Marcus Browne when he lost to Beterbiev.

I don't think either of them really have that "fighters mentality" so to speak, but AJ at least is competitive and still wants to win, while DDD has quit twice now in the face of adversity. Guys supported it in the Joyce fight saying "His face was broken! It could have ended his career!" (His face wasn't broken, he had his next fight before Joyce did FFS) but what will the excuse be now? He quit because he felt he won and was discouraged?

[_Rexy_]

Look how high up those trunks are. They're almost covering his ti**s.

Yet you can still see his belly button. Wild

[Rockenator]

You mean a real heavyweight like Anthony Joshua the former champ?

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. No, not the cream puff chinned, body builder Joshua. Someone like Fury, Wilder or Anderson. The rest of the heavyweight division is trash.

[_Rexy_]

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. No, not the cream puff chinned, body builder Joshua. Someone like Fury, Wilder or Anderson. The rest of the heavyweight division is trash.

Anderson has never fought anyone in the top 10, and just had a hard fight with Charles Martin.

But he’ll beat Usyk?

[Rockenator]

Anderson has never fought anyone in the top 10, and just had a hard fight with Charles Martin.

But he’ll beat Usyk?

He has a far better chance than nothing opponents like Dubois. My preference is to have Fury fight Usyk. I don't fault Usyk for not making that match as Fury can be a real arse. But who am I to knock a guy who will make $50M for a crossover fight that no one really wants to see. The double knockout would be Joshua getting creamed by Wilder and then Fury putting Usyk to sleep so you can forget about these two heavyweights that will not be remembered as great heavyweights by anyone in the future.

[Rockenator]

Anthony Joshua is capable of knocking out everyone you listed and in fact I’d favor him to do so

Joshua couldn't dent a marshmallow. I really hope he makes the fight with Wilder as you will see Anthony on the canvas some where in between "Oh say," and "can you see." But I doubt it really comes together as Joshua doesn't want anything to do with a real puncher like Wilder. You think he was tentative against a rum dumb like Helenius? One taste of Wilder's power and you'll have AJ backing up on his heels all night. But still, he'll get caught, go down and hopefully go away in the heavyweight division.