"Benavidez was dropped by Gavril"

[4truth]

To be honest, that wasn't even a knockdown. It looks more of a slip.

watch it again. that was a clean kd. A short hook while David's feet were wrong and down he went. I think you just remember it wrong because Benevidez wasn't hurt.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It wasn't.

It was.

[_Rexy_]

It's no different than the Canelo fans bringing up how Beterbiev was dropped in 2018.


One of the most insecure fanbase I've ever seen. They'll grasp at anything.

Inoue has never fought anyone
Beterbiev got dropped in 2018
Usyk "went life and death with Chisora"

[Chollo Vista]

It's no different than the Canelo fans bringing up how Beterbiev was dropped in 2018.


One of the most insecure fanbase I've ever seen. They'll grasp at anything.

Inoue has never fought anyone
Beterbiev got dropped in 2018
Usyk "went life and death with Chisora"

LMAO you were saying the same thing about Jacobs being dropped by Mora and Pirog as reason for not being able to beat Golovkin

The nerve

[IronDanHamza]

Closish fight which I saw for Benavidez but the kid was young and it was his first time past 10 rounds in what was quite a considerable step up. Clear his energy mangement wasn't on point. Look I'm not saying Benavidez doesn't have flaws or that it's entirely irrelevent, it's more a general observation on the tendency on NSB to single out rare weak performances - even from years in the past - to argue that a boxer is weak now. Every fighter turns in poor performances now and then, whether it's just the styles clash, inexperience (as I think in this case), a bad camp or whatever.

I'm looking forward to this fight precisely because it gives us a chance to see whrther a relatively skilled and slick operator like Plant can capitalise of Benavidez' perceived weakness - or conversely how much David has developed and learned in the 6 or so years since the first Gavril fight.

I agree he was young and has improved but I still don’t think it’s a reach when he arguably lost and to be honest it wasn’t that close, most thought Gavril won. To me it’s no different to when people excused Broner’s performances against Quintero and De Leon because he was “young”. These things do matter.

It’s not comparable at all to Canelo being momentarily stunned by Jose Cotto. He dominated every second of that fight other than that 30 seconds.

[_Rexy_]

LMAO you were saying the same thing about Jacobs being dropped by Mora and Pirog as reason for not being able to beat Golovkin

The nerve

Relax, Rey Mysterio. Go back to the lounge and try to convince everyone you're black.


I wasn't on this forum for Jacobs/GGG Nice try,

ThE NeRvE

[IronDanHamza]

LMAO you were saying the same thing about Jacobs being dropped by Mora and Pirog as reason for not being able to beat Golovkin

The nerve

You’re talking to a guy that says James Toney would “dominate, destroy and knock out” Canelo, Wilder and AJ all whilst none of them “land a glove on him”.

And he has the nerve to try and talk down to other fanbases.

None say anything close to as deluded as his warped, baseless opinions.

[IronDanHamza]

Relax, Rey Mysterio. Go back to the lounge and try to convince everyone you're black.


I wasn't on this forum for Jacobs/GGG Nice try,

ThE NeRvE

What’s your excuse for your warped, deluded, baseless opinions that James Toney would “dominate, destroy and knock out” Canelo, AJ and Wilder though?

[JohnP2]

It was the
definition of a flash knock down. Broner dropping Porter type punch. He got caught got up and did his thing. More so he gave Gavril that run back and dominated. Plus Gavril is a tough out for anyone IMO.

[Citizen Koba]

I agree he was young and has improved but I still don’t think it’s a reach when he arguably lost and to be honest it wasn’t that close, most thought Gavril won. To me it’s no different to when people excused Broner’s performances against Quintero and De Leon because he was “young”. These things do matter.

It’s not comparable at all to Canelo being momentarily stunned by Jose Cotto. He dominated every second of that fight other than that 30 seconds.

Well I thought David earned the win but it's boxing and opinions differ so I ain't gonna push the point and yeah it's possible it is a sign of vulnerabilities that could be a sign of things to come but that ain't really the spirit of the kinda posts the TS was refering to I think. It's more like he was talking about the kinda people posting that Benavidez doesn't 'deserve' Canelo because he got knocked down by Gavril which to my mind is an absurd stance to take.

And no, it's not remotely comaprable to Jose Cotto momentarily stunning a young Canelo, I never said it was, although possibly you got me conmfused with someone else who did suggest that.

And yeah, sure, for those with eyes to see there were warnings that Broner might come unstuck - and that's fair to say about Benavidez too - likie I say I'm not unaware of his vulnerabilities andI ain't even a fan in particular - but once again to argue that he isn't worthy of a date with the Ginger One simply because he had a close fight with Gavril 6 years ago smacks of absurdity to me.

Strikes me that we may be arguing slightly cross puposes here though. All I'm saying is that the Gavril fight doesn't disqualify Benavidez as being considered a legitmate top contender at 168 and that it's ridiculous to argue that he's not good enough to challenge for Canelo's titles at 168 on the back of that historical performance, whereas you seem to simply be arguing that the first Gavril fight exposed some genuine weaknesses in Davids game which is a point I ain't even contesting.