How can people say Canelo wasn’t prime at 23 with 43 pro fights..........

[davef]

Young floyd was better than young canelo

Prime floyd was better than prime canelo

Old floyd will likely be better than old canelo

What does it matter ok lets say he was green then Floyd did exactly what he was supposed to and schooled him good

[Chaos]

Oh really?

Salvador Sanchez was 22, had 43 pro fights and ONLY 4 amateur fights when he beat an undefeated Wilfredo Gomez.

Canelo was 23, had 43 pro fights, 46 amateur fights, and lost to a much smaller 36 year old Mayweather.

Seems you don't understand boxing history.

Why did Floyd weight drain him? Why was he scared to allow the fight to be at 154? There's no credit for beating a bigger fighter if you're not going to fight them at a weight they're comfortable at. Khan had more balls.

[Boxing-1013]

When you ask this question to Canelo fans, they respond with "well, that is because he drained himself so bad to get to 155 that all of his power was gone." But they can't answer this Q.

OK, then if his power at the bigger weight class was there this whole time, how come he couldn't hurt Chavez Jr at 164 AT ALL. But then Fonfara, who was a hard puncher at 175 but not so hard that he was brutally knocking out fighters the way any of these other guys are, flattened Chavez Junior the fight before? How does Canelo go from having power way less than Fonfara to power way more than Fonfara that has Kovalev fighting scared?

I mean I would say the obvious answer is he is on some good stuff, but to each his own. His increase in power is pretty clearly chemically enhanced imo

[TernceBudCharlo]

I mean I would say the obvious answer is he is on some good stuff, but to each his own. His increase in power is pretty clearly chemically enhanced imo

Also if he was truly draining himself so hard to 155 and taking away all of his power, why was he even fighting there in the first place? Why wasn't he fighting at 160 or 168 where he had power to shatter eye bones? Was there someone there that he didn't want to fight maybe?

[BodyBagz]

Come on man, it doesn’t matter about ring weights

Then that settles it.

[BodyBagz]

Only if they fight at 160, and even then I would bet on Floyd.

If they fight at 154lbs, and its the same Floyd who fought Canelo back then, Canelo would get schooled even worse than before.

Dunno if you've noticed but Floyd has proven to be a great rematch fighter. He also widens the gap in his rematches, just look at Castillo and Maidana rematches.

Plus even if that wasn't the case, you guys are clearly suffering from selective memory.

This is the same guy was was losing every round to Kovalev before the KO, the same guy who went life and death with past prime GGG and arguably lost both times.

Just because he cherry picking british bums and the yildrims of the world yawl have forgetten very quickly that this guy is actuallu not a cut above the rest at all and were it not for the Lara robbery and the ducking of Andrade and Charlo, he could easily have six or seven losses on his record.

May was extra special
Nelo is special too

[Johnny2x2x]

Canelo is better now than he was then, but it doesn't mean that Floyd's win vs him wasn't an all time great win, especially considering Floyd was well past his prime physically.

Canelo's run to all time great status now only enhances Floyd's legacy. That's why Canelo haters are a lot of carry over from Floyd haters.

[War Room]

When:
Sugar Ray Leonard at 23 with only 26 fights beat prime Wilfred Benitez

Floyd Mayweather at 23 with only 25 fights beat prime Diego Corrales

Salvador Sanchez at 22 with 43 fights (same # of pro fights as Canelo) and only 4 amateur fights beat prime Wilfredo Gomez

George Foreman at 24 with 38 fights knocked out prime Joe Frazier

Muhammad Ali at 22 with only 19 fights knocked out Sonny Liston

Mike Tyson at age 20 became Heavyweight Champion of the World

THAT, is greatness.

Canelo fought a 36 year old Floyd who was 15+lbs lighter than him, and couldn’t win a single round.......

Canelo is a good fighter, but will never be on the level of Ali, Roy Jones, Tyson, Leonard, Duran, Sanchez/Gomez, or May/Pac.



P.S Imagine if Mike Tyson had lost to 36 year old Larry Holmes, and then said “but I was only 21, I was too young........ LOL"

Canelo turned pro at 15 --->

• Floyd turned pro at 19
• Salvador Sanchez turned pro at 16
• Muhammed Ali turned pro at 18
• Tyson turned pro at 18

I don't know why people jock Sanchez so hard. He was pro 7 years and didn't beat many top fighters, I don't rate him.

I agree with you on Canelo, I don't consider him anywhere near close to an atg. I think he came up short in his biggest tests. He's a good fighter, but not atg level.

[W1LL]

You won't be able to pinpoint Canelo's prime until his career is over. He does appear to be in his prime right now, he has never looked better than he does right now. The current, 30-year-old Canelo would absolutely crush the 23-year-old relatively green Canelo that Floyd beat. Is your sole point to try and say Floyd beat a prime Canelo? Very weak if so. Current Canelo is too big for Floyd, and much-improved from the basic slugger who Floyd barely sc****d past 7 years ago.

[War Room]

Why did Floyd weight drain him? Why was he scared to allow the fight to be at 154? There's no credit for beating a bigger fighter if you're not going to fight them at a weight they're comfortable at. Khan had more balls.

Drain? Canelo was fresh out of the box at 23, thats just a few more miles to run and a few less Cleneloterol taco's. Plus he's going to rehydrate, which is did quite well lol.

I think for a a 40 year-old out of his prime fighter that's been in the sport ACTIVE for 17 years when the average prime career goes 14-16 years for ATG's, a 2 pound difference is very fair and reasonable thing to ask.

Canelo was 165 on fight night and Floyd lost a half pound to 150. Whatta drain guy!