How can people say Canelo wasn’t prime at 23 with 43 pro fights..........

[Skillz12]

STFU b1tch.

Ya momma is hoe ass ***** ****tt mfer.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Bruh you talking out your ass.

Floyd was 150lbs ON FIGHT NIGHT. He was weighed on the network scales on the night of the fight and he was 150lbs, whereas Canelo was 165lbs.

Lol, Canelo had a 15lbs weight advantage and still got smacked around the ring.

That's what they won't admit, Canelo was a GIANT that night and still got humiliated. He wasn't drained, he offered the catchweght.

[Skillz12]

That's what they won't admit, Canelo was a GIANT that night and still got humiliated. He wasn't drained, he offered the catchweght.

A “Giant” Hahahaha gtfo that same “Giant” went the distance with a Average guys like Matthew Hatton too wow what a “ Giant” canelo was at that time.

more like a God damn zombie.

[Truth Bringer]

Ya momma is hoe ass ***** ****tt mfer.

Sounds like he hurt your feelings lol

[Zaryu]

When:
Sugar Ray Leonard at 23 with only 26 fights beat prime Wilfred Benitez

Floyd Mayweather at 23 with only 25 fights beat prime Diego Corrales

Salvador Sanchez at 22 with 43 fights (same # of pro fights as Canelo) and only 4 amateur fights beat prime Wilfredo Gomez

George Foreman at 24 with 38 fights knocked out prime Joe Frazier

Muhammad Ali at 22 with only 19 fights knocked out Sonny Liston

Mike Tyson at age 20 became Heavyweight Champion of the World

THAT, is greatness.

Canelo fought a 36 year old Floyd who was 15+lbs lighter than him, and couldn’t win a single round.......

Canelo is a good fighter, but will never be on the level of Ali, Roy Jones, Tyson, Leonard, Duran, Sanchez/Gomez, or May/Pac.



P.S Imagine if Mike Tyson had lost to 36 year old Larry Holmes, and then said “but I was only 21, I was too young........ LOL"

It's simple really, he was not nearly as advanced in his boxing skills at 23 years old as he is now. He's still in his physical prime, but he has improved since his early 20s, hence this is his prime as a boxer.

[Skillz12]

Sounds like he hurt your feelings lol

Feeling my balls.

lol Floyd boys get all up they’re feelingS.

[Boxing-1013]

Canelo has improved tremendously since then, he is a complete fighter now. He still has stamina issues but does everything really well.

This.....not to mention, he fights much smarter now. Gameplan vs Floyd was that of a novice. Also, the weight drain has to be mentioned as well for the Floyd fight.

[Boxing-1013]

Let's look at Canelo's results and form recently, and then around the Floyd fights.

a) - destroyed and stopped BJS at 168
b) - dominated Callum Smith at 168
c) - KOed Kovalev at 175
d) - beat Jacobs quite clearly at 160
e) - walked through Yildrim and Fielding at 168
f) - fought GGG well and held the center of the ring against him for 12 rounds whereas no one else has been able to do it for 1 round

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a) - unimpressive UDs vs Mosley, Cotto, and Trout. All sub 160 pounds. Consensus is he won all those fights, but did not inspire in any of those performances
b) - nice KOS and performances vs Kirkland, Angulo, and Lopez.
c) - close fight vs Lara, where he looked lost at times and hard to eek out a win (on my card)
d) - similar to the Lara fight, he looked lost vs Floyd and was out of his depths especially with his gameplan

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Canelo is clearly performing much better as a fighter in the last 3 years, compared to the 3 years bookending the Floyd fight. He is impressively beating better competition now, whereas before, he was struggling to impress or even clearly win against guys of a similar level, at a lower weight.

You would expect a guy to have the more dominant performances at the LOWER weights, not the higher weights. Any way you look at it, Canelo is a much better fighter now than he was in 2013. Is he juiced to the gills? Probably. But we aren't really analyzing that part of it.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Let's look at Canelo's results and form recently, and then around the Floyd fights.

a) - destroyed and stopped BJS at 168
b) - dominated Callum Smith at 168
c) - KOed Kovalev at 175
d) - beat Jacobs quite clearly at 160
e) - walked through Yildrim and Fielding at 168
f) - fought GGG well and held the center of the ring against him for 12 rounds whereas no one else has been able to do it for 1 round

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a) - unimpressive UDs vs Mosley, Cotto, and Trout. All sub 160 pounds. Consensus is he won all those fights, but did not inspire in any of those performances
b) - nice KOS and performances vs Kirkland, Angulo, and Lopez.
c) - close fight vs Lara, where he looked lost at times and hard to eek out a win (on my card)
d) - similar to the Lara fight, he looked lost vs Floyd and was out of his depths especially with his gameplan

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Canelo is clearly performing much better as a fighter in the last 3 years, compared to the 3 years bookending the Floyd fight. He is impressively beating better competition now, whereas before, he was struggling to impress or even clearly win against guys of a similar level, at a lower weight.

You would expect a guy to have the more dominant performances at the LOWER weights, not the higher weights. Any way you look at it, Canelo is a much better fighter now than he was in 2013. Is he juiced to the gills? Probably. But we aren't really analyzing that part of it.

When you ask this question to Canelo fans, they respond with "well, that is because he drained himself so bad to get to 155 that all of his power was gone." But they can't answer this Q.

OK, then if his power at the bigger weight class was there this whole time, how come he couldn't hurt Chavez Jr at 164 AT ALL. But then Fonfara, who was a hard puncher at 175 but not so hard that he was brutally knocking out fighters the way any of these other guys are, flattened Chavez Junior the fight before? How does Canelo go from having power way less than Fonfara to power way more than Fonfara that has Kovalev fighting scared?

[Chaos]

He was still learning even though he had defeated the previously unbeaten Austin Trout who himself had just schooled legendary fighter and world Champion Miguel Cotto?

Add that he had more pro fights than Floyd at the time, lol.

Good job ignoring the entire premise of my post. How many amateur fights did they both have?

Most boxers (and athletes in general) hit their prime around 25-26.