How can people say Canelo wasn’t prime at 23 with 43 pro fights..........

[Boxing-1013]

Drain? Canelo was fresh out of the box at 23, thats just a few more miles to run and a few less Cleneloterol taco's. Plus he's going to rehydrate, which is did quite well lol.

I think for a a 40 year-old out of his prime fighter that's been in the sport ACTIVE for 17 years when the average prime career goes 14-16 years for ATG's, a 2 pound difference is very fair and reasonable thing to ask.

Canelo was 165 on fight night and Floyd lost a half pound to 150. Whatta drain guy!

Who was 40 years old? Floyd was 36 in that fight. Why lie

[War Room]

Who was 40 years old? Floyd was 36 in that fight. Why lie

I know, I know kid when you're used to seeing someone knock it out of the park every time they're up at plate, a mere triple looks like a strike out to someone that DKSAB. Like a man ---> my mistake, I miscounted. Take a play out of my book kid, make a mistake you own up to it. Very little difference between 36 & 40 for a boxing body regarding losing weight.

[Skillz12]

When you're 32 year's old, losing two pounds of muscle after being retired for 2 years is very very difficult and taxing to your body. Canelo was 23 and active in the prime of his life, Floyd was 32 and directly at the end of his prime. Do the research, boxing prime for starting at 18 is 32-34 depending on the damage you've taken during that 14-16 year period. Take more damage, out of prime quicker. Look at Ali, Morales, etc for references.

The human body has a shelf life in boxing and genetics does play some role, but very little in extending it. The only reason why certain boxers can extend their shelf life is supreme high level skills often coupled with a new generation of lesser skilled and lesser dedicated boxers, facts. Floyd always stayed in shape when active, new crop has a season like football. When I was an amateur, it was like Floyd, you were ready to fight on a day's notice, even in the pro's. Hopkins lasted so long because the newer crop blew. Hopkins would have never survived against his original class at his age. Imagine him against Jones 93' when Hopkins was 45 years old.

YDKSAB and only retain molecules of what passes by. I've lived and breathed it, I'm an academic in this sport and if there was a degree system I would have a phd. I'm like EF HUtton, when I speak, you listen and honestly, you should be filling the coffers of my paypal for this masterclass knowledge.

Floyd his entire career came in under weight, one single time when he was 32, out for 2 years he had a weight issue, and you haters will never let it go like he did it all the time. Time for a reality check you h0mo, YDKSAB. Look in the mirror and say the words, IDKSAB.

Checkmate, who's next?

Floyd was 100% in his prime when he drained canelo any dummy could see that’s not debate but Floyd jizzbiys will start saying Floyd was 40 when he faced him then by next month he’ll be 45 when he faced canelo. Smh damn clowns

canelo clearly wasn’t Given the fact that he was going the distance with guys like Matthew Hatton canelo was very very green and still learning on the job like a lot of Mexicans early in they’re careers. FACTS!!!!

Thats checkmate now who’s next???

[hugh grant]

Great points.

you can easily shut TS up by saying well then guys like Matthew Hatton and Jose Cotto must be greats too because they did better against canelo then Jacobs, Kova, Smith, bjs etc.

all you need is to take one Look at how canelo looked against those guys to see he was nowhere near his prime yet.

I can't believe floyd fans or anyone could claim 3I year old Nell isn't considerably better than 23 year old nelo?

[War Room]

Floyd was 100% in his prime when he drained canelo any dummy could see that’s not debate but Floyd jizzbiys will start saying Floyd was 40 when he faced him then by next month he’ll be 45 when he faced canelo. Smh damn clowns

canelo clearly wasn’t Given the fact that he was going the distance with guys like Matthew Hatton canelo was very very green and still learning on the job like a lot of Mexicans early in they’re careers. FACTS!!!!

Thats checkmate now who’s next???

Nobody ever in the sport of boxing is in their prime at age 36. YDKSAB.

Checkmate, who's next again?

[Chaos]

When you're 32 year's old, losing two pounds of muscle after being retired for 2 years is very very difficult and taxing to your body. Canelo was 23 and active in the prime of his life, Floyd was 32 and directly at the end of his prime. Do the research, boxing prime for starting at 18 is 32-34 depending on the damage you've taken during that 14-16 year period. Take more damage, out of prime quicker. Look at Ali, Morales, etc for references.

The human body has a shelf life in boxing and genetics does play some role, but very little in extending it. The only reason why certain boxers can extend their shelf life is supreme high level skills often coupled with a new generation of lesser skilled and lesser dedicated boxers, facts. Floyd always stayed in shape when active, new crop has a season like football. When I was an amateur, it was like Floyd, you were ready to fight on a day's notice, even in the pro's. Hopkins lasted so long because the newer crop blew. Hopkins would have never survived against his original class at his age. Imagine him against Jones 93' when Hopkins was 45 years old.

YDKSAB and only retain molecules of what passes by. I've lived and breathed it, I'm an academic in this sport and if there was a degree system I would have a phd. I'm like EF HUtton, when I speak, you listen and honestly, you should be filling the coffers of my paypal for this masterclass knowledge.

Floyd his entire career came in under weight, one single time when he was 32, out for 2 years he had a weight issue, and you haters will never let it go like he did it all the time. Time for a reality check you h0mo, YDKSAB. Look in the mirror and say the words, IDKSAB.

Checkmate, who's next?

You're the buffoon claiming 2 pounds is nothing, yet you try to justify Floyd coming in overweight against JMM, but also defend him weight draining Canelo. Hypocrite troll.

You're the clown claiming a 23 year old is prime when everyone and their dog knows it comes after 25, and anyone who's followed his career knows he's much better now than he was then. The fact that you're such a reprobate and liar about such basic facts shows what a pathetic weasel you are.

[mrpain81]

People saying that 152 was nothing and it was something Canelo wanted is funny, the guy never fought even at 154 after the fight. The truth is Canelo was a good fighter(champion) but not only was he not prime(His prime began in the second GGG fight imo) he was green at the negotiating table.

Oscar went into rehab the week of the fight, he obviously wasn't in top form when negotiating this fight, the important thing isn't the 2lbs, what people are missing is Canelo weighed in at 172 on the night of the Trout fight.



On the night of the Mayweather fight he weighed in at 165



There is definitely something fishy there, no fighter is going to weigh in 7 pounds less on the day of the fight unless there was some sort of re-hydration clause. It's no surprise that they made Team Canelo sign a NDA when talking about all the terms to the fight and we don't know the penalty's if he had come in over weight. We also don't have all the details, that's probably why Canelo is so confident he would KO Mayweather in the rematch.

I've always said Mayweather is a better business man than he is a fighter, a lot of smoke and mirrors when it comes to his career. He did what he had to do and it was a great learning experience for Canelo. Mayweather would have probably won regardless of the weight, he was P4P #1 in the world and was the favorite.

But to say he beat a prime Canelo is being disingenuous.

[strykr619]

So now Floyd was an “old man” gtfo dude was p4p the best at the time and a fresh 33 yr having never taken any damage but that’s how you clowns wanna spin it now. Next week floyd will be 40 when he faves a canelo and canelo 29 right??? Smh

Also don’t leave out that Floyd made canelo weigh 152 to get that Floyd edge just like in all his fights.

A prime canelo(which is now)would murder Floyd but they were too far apart in weights for Floyd to ever face a prime canelo.

But ya probably think Matthew Hatton would still go the distance and win rds with this canelo too right????

pathetic how insecure these black Floyd jizzboys are they get wet just thinking of Floyd playing tag. Weak ass bitchasss fighting style.

I am no Floyd stan but Canelo did not fight a Prime Floyd. He knew he was going to lose but he would have zero damage. Its the reason why OLDH turned down the Pac fight for Canelo in 2011 and instead Pac fought Mosley (LOL Canelo fought Mosley after that thou) thou TBH i think the bigger reason was Canelo moved up to 154 in 2010 and didn't want to cut back down to 147 and IMO 2011 Pac would of hurt Canelo.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Sometimes great fighters don't have a definitive prime.

Canelo Alvarez was not some rookie when he fought Mayweather, he already had vast amount of experience 'Plus was unbeaten'.

[War Room]

You're the buffoon claiming 2 pounds is nothing, yet you try to justify Floyd coming in overweight against JMM, but also defend him weight draining Canelo. Hypocrite troll.

You're the clown claiming a 23 year old is prime when everyone and their dog knows it comes after 25, and anyone who's followed his career knows he's much better now than he was then. The fact that you're such a reprobate and liar about such basic facts shows what a pathetic weasel you are.

Everyone and their dog, you live in a trailer or something? Where are you getting this 25 crap from? Is that how much crack you bought today, 25 dollars worth?

I followed his career and actually posted on the mythos of Canelo's improvements which are NONE. Read all about it here:
ttps://krikya360.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/30887097-an-inside-look-at-the-mythos-of-canelo-s-improvements

You're a ****sucking cheerleader, get off my deck homegirl.