Miguel Cotto To Get Taxed By WBO, Even if Non-Title

[fonska]

Titlefights and catchweights.............

no and i never claimed that there is im just saying that imo a title fight should not be at a catch weight it should be at that particualr weight class limit in this case it being 147

Thats just how boxing business is, but from that point of view I kind of agree there because sometimes when is the smaller guy who wins the title on a catchweight they are not willin to defend it against the top fighters on the division, Are they gonna be makin all title defenses on a catchweight?? Thats BS
Its just not fair for the other title contenders. I mean, can u imagine Pac defendin the title against a beast like Clottey?? I dont think he would. I think that if you are not willing to defend the title on the full division limit then stay in your division. Title fights should be at full divisions limit imo but this is business thats the way it is, catchweights are making bigger fights to happen and im ok with it.

[prsi]

is there any rule that you should weight 147lbs for it to be considered as a title fight in the welterweight division?

on point. 141-147 is welterweight period.

hey wes the answer to your question is because 147 is the limit to welterweight. is that too hard to figure out. 141,142,143,145,146,and 147 which is the limit. all of those weights are in the welterweight class.

the bottom line is that the fight is being fought at one of the weights in the welterweight class so this is a title fight.

The bottom line is that the REGULATIONS FOR A WBO RECOGNIZED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT IS UP TO 147 NOT UP TO 145

The agreement of this fight is UP TO 145 and the only way that a catchweight has been for a title is because both fighters had agreed to it.

[prsi]

Cotto needs to man up and put it on the line i mean whats he scarred of?? He's fighting a smaller man!!!!! Oscar fought for the middlweight tittle at a lower weight then 160lbs!!!!! Just put the title on the line have confidence in yaself.

Joe Calzaghe went up to a catchweight to fight Hopkins with no title involved and Pacquiao himself went up to a catchweight to figh DLH with no title involved, "i mean whats he scarred of??"
Just fight without the title on the line or at 147 and for the title, "have confidence in yaself"

Cotto agreed to the catchweight. (Asked By Pacquiao)
Cotto agreed to the lowest % of the purse. (Asked By Pacquiao)
Cotto agreed to the gloves. (Asked By Pacquiao)

Pacquiao had agreed to the fight without the title (Never stipulated), now he changes.

What else will he demand that, Cotto doesn't use his jab????????

[twinchrome44s]

WBO is just ruining whatever credibility they have left at ww you get to come in up to 147 and shouldn't be able to "contract around" it. If the WBO wasn't hungry for money they would enforce that but it looks like they'll sell out their own divisions for a dime. And/or Pacquiao and Roach don't want it that bad and are shopping exits.

[Mighty_Windir]

**** these WBO ****s Cotto, send them the belt through mail with a note saying:


SHOVE IT UP YOU ASS ****SUCKERS

[prsi]

Thats just how boxing business is, but from that point of view I kind of agree there because sometimes when is the smaller guy who wins the title on a catchweight they are not willin to defend it against the top fighters on the division, Are they gonna be makin all title defenses on a catchweight?? Thats BS
Its just not fair for the other title contenders. I mean, can u imagine Pac defendin the title against a beast like Clottey?? I dont think he would. I think that if you are not willing to defend the title on the full division limit then stay in your division. Title fights should be at full divisions limit imo but this is business thats the way it is, catchweights are making bigger fights to happen and im ok with it.

WBO is just ruining whatever credibility they have left at ww you get to come in up to 147 and shouldn't be able to "contract around" it. If the WBO wasn't hungry for money they would enforce that but it looks like they'll sell out their own divisions for a dime. And/or Pacquiao and Roach don't want it that bad and are shopping exits.

This is what I have been saying all along but I have a scenario (speculations)for you guys to think about and other people don't seem to realize.

Let's say Pacquiao beats Cotto for the title at 145
Let's say Mosley fight and beats Berto and unifies both titles.
Let's say Pacquiao and Mosley agreed to fight at 140 (like Mosley has already said he would) what will the WBO do in this case?? If you ask me they will sell their own division again and accept this even if it will not be in the WW weight class of 141-145, oopps i'm sorry from 141-147.

Let Say Pacquiao and Mosley do fight for all the WW titles at 144 and Pacquao wins, will all his challengers have to fight him for the WW titles at 144??

Hell let resolve the WBO issue, from know on we can have a WW CHAMPION "A" from 141 UP TO 147 like the current WBO championship regulations stipulate and then we can also have a WW CHAMPION "B" from 141 UP TO 145 and we can call it Varcarcel cash in regulations. This will resolve all their problems and they can even cash in with both WW CHAMPIONS "A" and "B".
Well, to me honestly, the last paragraph doesn't make sense but to Varcarcel it probably will.

[BennyST]

you know why its called tax?.....coz everyone has to do it.......

i would like to verify if this is the first time this is happening or is cotto fans the only one crying about having their boy having to pay sanction fees. i believe i've read multiple times that champs have to pay sanction fees for their fights title or no title. so why the bitching?

what the **** are roach and pac got to do with cottos tax issues.....he has to pay his dues like everyone else.........being a model of ecko does not make you more special...........wait till pac beats cotto and maybe jmm will get his chance ....again...

Did any of you even read the article? They are going to try and make him pay the sanctioning fees regardless of whether it's a title fight or not. They are doing everything they can, short of kidnapping him and ransoming him back to his team for the title fight, to make him give into Pac ad Roach's demands.

Cotto has stated that unless he can fight at the proper WW limit where he won the title then he will not fight for his title and not pay any sanctioning fees. They are saying that we are going to make you pay no matter what. That is ****ed up people. Pac and his team are pulling every string possible to screw Cotto over for this thing.

Anyone who defends this should not call themselves a boxing fan. This is a blatant rip off of a fighter. Also, Cotto is not guaranteed 15 million. Absolutely not. Pac is only guaranteed 12 million and Cotto will get, at the highest, 10 million, but it probably won't get close to that figure after everything. From what I understand Pac has most of the TV rights and ****e like that which will bump his $ amount way above 12 whereas Cotto won't see any of that.

Either way, this is just plain boxing corruption at its best and should not be looked upon as something that is normal and needs to be done. Whether you're a fan of Pac or not, no one should condone this and think it's right because it's not. They are simply trying to screw Cotto over. It is about that simple.

[D-MiZe]

I'm starting to feel really sorry for Cotto...

[Gabilan]

Did any of you even read the article? They are going to try and make him pay the sanctioning fees regardless of whether it's a title fight or not. They are doing everything they can, short of kidnapping him and ransoming him back to his team for the title fight, to make him give into Pac ad Roach's demands.

Cotto has stated that unless he can fight at the proper WW limit where he won the title then he will not fight for his title and not pay any sanctioning fees. They are saying that we are going to make you pay no matter what. That is ****ed up people. Pac and his team are pulling every string possible to screw Cotto over for this thing.

Anyone who defends this should not call themselves a boxing fan. This is a blatant rip off of a fighter. Also, Cotto is not guaranteed 15 million. Absolutely not. Pac is only guaranteed 12 million and Cotto will get, at the highest, 10 million, but it probably won't get close to that figure after everything. From what I understand Pac has most of the TV rights and ****e like that which will bump his $ amount way above 12 whereas Cotto won't see any of that.

Either way, this is just plain boxing corruption at its best and should not be looked upon as something that is normal and needs to be done. Whether you're a fan of Pac or not, no one should condone this and think it's right because it's not. They are simply trying to screw Cotto over. It is about that simple.

No, no ,no. If he vacates there is nothing the WBO can do. What they are saying is that even if the fighters agree not to put the belt on the line he would have to pay the sanctioning fees. Again, unless he vacates.

But I do agree with your outrage on the other points. They'll find a compromise and in the end I bet Cotto comes out a belt-less winner. That's ok with me.

[MakeDamnSure]

Cotto has nothing to say about thos issue. Whatever Pac, Roach and Arum wants, Cotto will follow.

Pacquiao calls the shots now earning it the hard way by beating Barrera, Morales. Marquez twice, DLH, and Hatton.

Cotto coming off KO loss and gift decisions over Clottey has nothing to say about this issue.