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    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
    go watch roy vs bernard


    bernard will tell u himself roy beat him
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    i wasn't talking about that fight 15 years ago......i've heard hopkins mention that that was the one fight he knew he lost.............


    i was talking about the fights in recent memory that hopkins "lost."

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      Originally posted by TRUTH View Post
      Tarver is a 6'3 south paw with a probing jab who got into Roy's head. Calzaghe according to boxrec is 5'11 and he doesn't fight like Tarver. Plus he doesn't have Roy psyched out like Tarver did.

      To be fair, Joe is 6'1.

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        If Calzaghe looks as bad against Jones as he did Hopkins, I'll consider it a loss for Calzaghe. How he looks great against marginal opponents and then like total **** against once-elite fighters means he's either shot or never that great.

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          Originally posted by MWMerlino View Post
          If Calzaghe looks as bad against Jones as he did Hopkins, I'll consider it a loss for Calzaghe. How he looks great against marginal opponents and then like total **** against once-elite fighters means he's either shot or never that great.
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          or both. but i feel the latter moreso.

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            I would have liked to have seen the British boxer Joe Calzaghe fight Roy Jones Jr. when he was in his prime; perhaps just seven or eight years after becoming a World Champion.

            Calzaghe, at thirty six, is sadly years past his best.

            The same can be said for Roy Jones Jr.

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              Originally posted by MWMerlino View Post
              If Calzaghe looks as bad against Jones as he did Hopkins, I'll consider it a loss for Calzaghe. How he looks great against marginal opponents and then like total **** against once-elite fighters means he's either shot or never that great.


              I feel that the British fighter will lose this fight purely because he has only ever fought 1 fight at a weight as heavy as Light-Heavyweight and he even admitted that he fought awfully in that fight.

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                Originally posted by WESS View Post
                I had Hop over Cal even after the fight... You don't take the belt from a chmp by slapping 12 rounds and then have the CHAMP LAUGH in your face when its over... that's not defeat... that's a guy that knows if he does my SISTERS WINDMILL pitty pat slaps for 12 he wins.... GARBAGE, we don't need that in boxing... HOP made him look like what he is, AVERAGE SLAPPY/SLOPPY JOE. Nothing more, nothing less... He has endurance that is superior and that's IT...... I think Roy has seen past all the BS and his entire BS career and called him out for a reason....
                I'm surprised that you would make a big thing of Hopkins "laughing" or the split decision. Calzaghe won that fight comfortably, and it should have been a unanimous 116-112, at least.

                As for the famous "laugh" ....Did anyone ever see that movie.."Always Leave 'em Laughing"??? probably not, but let me say that if you look back on all of Hopkins' losses you'll see his "disbelieving" laugh. ....It's ALL "gamesmanship", his putting up his hands in victory before the announcement and the "astonished" "disbelieving" expression accompanying the famous"laugh".......

                Boxers are part-time actors too you know.

                As for the Jones-Calzaghe fight, all I can say is that I don't believe that Jones is "shot, and he's capable of winning, depending on which Jones shows up, and whether he gets a good start. But Calzaghe's pride, determination and work rate will be hard to overcome. Yet, one lightning quick right hand lead by Jones, could change the whole picture, and also change Calzaghe's fight plans.

                Pavlik would have been a certain victory, but .....So.......

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                  Originally posted by hardmanbrit View Post
                  To be fair, Joe is 6'1.
                  As you say, to be "fair" Joe is 6'1".....But to be REALLY fair, Joe is actually 5' 11", as is Roy Jones.......... Unless BOXREC is wrong, or I can't read.

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                    Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                    As you say, to be "fair" Joe is 6'1".....But to be REALLY fair, Joe is actually 5' 11", as is Roy Jones.......... Unless BOXREC is wrong, or I can't read.
                    And according to the same source, Tarver is 6' 2".

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                      Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                      I'm surprised that you would make a big thing of Hopkins "laughing" or the split decision. Calzaghe won that fight comfortably, and it should have been a unanimous 116-112, at least.

                      As for the famous "laugh" ....Did anyone ever see that movie.."Always Leave 'em Laughing"??? probably not, but let me say that if you look back on all of Hopkins' losses you'll see his "disbelieving" laugh. ....It's ALL "gamesmanship", his putting up his hands in victory before the announcement and the "astonished" "disbelieving" expression accompanying the famous"laugh".......

                      Boxers are part-time actors too you know.

                      As for the Jones-Calzaghe fight, all I can say is that I don't believe that Jones is "shot, and he's capable of winning, depending on which Jones shows up, and whether he gets a good start. But Calzaghe's pride, determination and work rate will be hard to overcome. Yet, one lightning quick right hand lead by Jones, could change the whole picture, and also change Calzaghe's fight plans.

                      Pavlik would have been a certain victory, but .....So.......
                      nope haven't seen it and I don't see the ACTING coming from HOP... He had the SAME expression when he first lost to JT.... There was NO acting... When the bell for the end of the 12th round rang, Hopkins laughed and knew he was not beat... For an old man to laugh at you that also didnt even look like he was sweating.... is just sad... SORRY, if the sport of boxing has come to a guy that slaps 12 rounds every fight just to barely pull of a win and say he's the best ever is just sad... YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE CHAMP and the way JOEY was talking is that he was going to BEAT him.. I'm sorry but 43 year old Grandpa HOP DIDN'T look beaten to me... especially when laughing at the end.... as for HOP its not like he did much either but he landed HARD shots and put Joe on the canvas, something JOE didnt/couldnt do and I think HOP won or at worse was a tie..... and if HOP was to ever become an ACTOR, that movie would surely BOMB.....

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