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    a 67 would take out Foreman. Fluid lateral movement, Ali could do this throughout the fight. Ali could beat Foreman because he could fight on the backfoot, had blinding handspeed, and could absorb punishment. If you watch whatever center-ring action takes place, Ali circles, jabs, bursts in with flurries and lead rights. Absolutely dominates Foreman center-ring. The main reason Ali was and would be able to do this was his comprehension of range, of all heavyweight fighters Ali had the best comprehension of range which allowed him to punish fighters from the periphery. Ali would be able to deal with whatever punishment Foreman could inflict in 67', Historians note at this stage he had become significantly bigger, had reached his PHYSICAL peak. In 62 he hadn't, hence getting dropped by cooper. Foreman was a essentially a wild swinger, Cooper caught a young, naieve Clay with a hard, well timed, short left hook to the Jaw.

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      I still think Ali would win but no way would he knock Foreman out. Foreman was ehausted and dropped with flurries. He was never KO'd before or after that. He was fighting in a hot country against a guy who absorbed punishment.

      Ali will out point Foreman but not KO him.

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        Originally posted by Demorak
        not "weak" chin "weaker"...he still had a good chin but when Cooper almost knocked him out what do you think Foreman would do?
        lol, that was in ali's prime?

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          Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
          I still think Ali would win but no way would he knock Foreman out. Foreman was ehausted and dropped with flurries. He was never KO'd before or after that. He was fighting in a hot country against a guy who absorbed punishment.

          Ali will out point Foreman but not KO him.
          '67 ali would make foreman even more exhausted. ali had slightly less punching power in 1967, but it was still pretty good. and plus since he wouldn't be laying on the ropes most of the time, ali would be throwing more punches. this would tire george out even quicker and ali would probably ko george in the same round he did in 1974.

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            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            maybe his career wasn't as good as ali, louis, dempsey, etc. but if they fought foreman, most of them would lose.

            All you had to do with Foreman was BE SMART and you would win. All of these fighters like Marciano, Tyson, Dempsey have a small chance to beat him because of their style. But when it comes to Ali, Holmes, Louis, Foreman has no chance really.

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              Originally posted by Yaman
              All you had to do with Foreman was BE SMART and you would win.
              no no ...you had to be able to take his punches also. Ali could, but I don't think Louis and Holmes would be able too.

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                they both had good chins i think they could

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                  Prime Larry Holmes had the heart of a lion and an iron chin. I am sure he could take Foreman's punches. Joe Louis had one of the best defence ever and he had a good chin too.

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                    Originally posted by Yaman
                    Prime Larry Holmes had the heart of a lion and an iron chin. I am sure he could take Foreman's punches. Joe Louis had one of the best defence ever and he had a good chin too.
                    Prime Holmes is probably the most underrated Champion of all time

                    people don't seem to realize stuff like the fact he went 48-0 wins, 20 successful title defenses over 7 years, the only man to do better is the Joe Louis,also Holmes nearly challenged Marciano's record of 49-0 and thats the closest anyone's gotten (aside from that other non hw fighter that went 51-0-1). As Ali and louis had he never turned anyone down for a title defense. One of the reasons people don't really see Holmes as a the best is Joe had more power, Ali had more flash and pizzazz, and both had more charisma; but Larry had just as much heart and determination as the two of them and beat almost as many men of equal quality….maybe more.

                    Louis and Ali were made to be champions just because of what they did. Joe Louis broke the color barrier and beat Max Schmelling the german enemy of the US. Ali took on impossible odds, and won, he beat sonny liston in a shocker, he beat George Foreman, and his most popular win his win over the US government. So really boxing doesn't always make the champion the best sometimes its politics behind the boxing. So Champions like Larry Holmes who really did accomplish something didn't really get the recognition because they didn't have that polotics behind him, honestly had Ali been a quiet country boy who was fast and beat guys then no way he would be labeled the greatest, he'd be like Larry Holmes, thrown in ppl's top 10's around 8 or 7, but Ali was labeled as nuts, he talked and siked ppl out and for that ppl see him in the top 2.

                    Larry Holmes deserves to be in a top 10 maybe not top 5 but he should be in there somewhere
                    Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 03-02-2006, 10:33 AM.

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                      Originally posted by NextRocky
                      they both had good chins i think they could
                      joe louis' chin couldn't withstand foreman's power.

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