My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

[butterfly1964]

Im not an Ali nut-hugger at all... but you are a blinded Ali-hating *****. Ali was out on his feet? and, that happened to him multiple times against Frazier but he had the heart and the ability to deal with it. Center ring fighting accounted for enough of the match to convince me and alot of people that in Ali's prime when hes moving laterally and fluidly he would pick Foreman to pieces... he would not be on the ropes like he was in 74'. An angry foreman? Foreman always appeared angry in the ring and if there was a rematch in 74' his mentality wasn't going to immediately change. It took him a few years and the hiring of Gil Clancy for him to become a more controlled fighter, and this style didn't work as well for him and he was BEATEN by young. Lyle was nothing special and nor was young, how many top 10 lists do you see them in?... they aren't comparable to Ali at all. Young troubled Ali but that doesn't make him a great fighter, thats merely an example of styles making fights. He went on to beat, an old, battered, blind Joe Frazier after manila - they both left their best in the ring night. A relatively young Foreman beating that version of Frazier doesn't impress at all. Michael moorer? a glass chinned, solid but not great boxer who was knocked out by Tua? He beat holyfield... but thats all. 'Every aspect of that fight leaned towards Ali's favor' - thats because Ali was the more skilled, tougher, smarter fighter. If they did rematch in 74' what would big George do differently? boxing historians note that his newfound controlled style didn't work as well as his previous. Hes going to attack Ali on the ropes in a more controlled fashion? and get outpointed via Ali's counterpunching with superior speed? and outpointed via Ali's control of what center-ring action takes place?

Your argument is the ridiculous one, that Ali could only beat Foreman 1/100 times... and that 1% chance happened to occur in the only fight they had with Foreman at his peak? bull****

Im not an Ali-nuthugger. I acknowledge his flaws, he didn't know how to block a jab and he never worked the body. I still believe that he would beat any boxer 2/3 times from any time period in his 67' prime. And i acknowledge he could be beaten 1/3 times by the likes of holmes, frazier, and Joe Louis. But never George Foreman, 67' or 74.

great post. 5mil points for you!

[sleazyfellow]

it is known foreman wanted a rematch but ali wouldnt give him one..neways heres my top ten
1. joe louis-speed, power, precision
2. ali- in his prime he could of fought anyone, im not talking about ali on the comeback trail..
3. jack johnson-ahead of his time
4. joe frazier-deadly left hook and threw hellacious shots to the body
5. ezzard charles-prolly the most underrated n unappreciated fighter ever.
6. marciano-i dont care if he beat ezzard or louis, he looked awkward in the ring and didnt use the kinda skills ezzard or louis had.
7. foreman-see above
8. liston-on his way up to the title he was a beast.
9. dempsy-the only reason i rate him so low is cause frazier, tyson and even marciano used the same style more effectivly.
10. ME!! im like the most severly undderated fighters ever, i may of learn my techniques from a ******, but let me tell u, without it (her,him?) id never learn how to throw my horrible right uppercut or terrible left hook, i mean...the punch that ruined millions of lives...

[Heckler]

Foreman wanted a rematch, foreman was a mental wreck. I have never seen definitive proof of Foreman wanting that match. And why would Ali fight in 76? he left his best in the ring in 75 and was going downhill quickly.

[Boxclever]

Everyone has their list of top ten heavyweights of all time here is mine. feel free to share yours also.


1)Muhammad Ali- It was amazing that a man of his physical size can move with such swiftness and agility. Was undefeated (30-0)when the title was wrongfully stripped from him in '67. Forced to stay out of boxing for three years, he went through ups and downs and 2 defeats to finally get another title shot at the age of 32 in 1974 and shocked the whole world by defeating the invincinble Big George Foreman. Two amazing title reigns and Ali was also the first man to win the Championship 3 times.

2)Joe Louis- The Brown Bomber was a deadly technician in the ring. During his title reign he faced anyone and anything that was put in front of him. Amazing number of title defenses(25!) and length of title reign.

3)George Foreman- In his early career Big George Foreman was a fighter that had the heavyweight division in fear, with an aura of invinciblity comparable to Tysons and Listons big George would have adversaries shaking in thier boots at the mention of his name. That is until he met Ali in '74. Big George was 42-0 when he lost to Ali. After the loss he went into a downward spiral that caused him to retire from boxing and becoming a preacher, didnt box for ten years. In 1988 Foreman came back with a drive to regain the heavyweight title again. And going through ups and downs he finally won back the title at the age of 45 in 1994 by KO against Michael Moorer. Amazingly regaining the title 20 years after losing it to Ali. Foreman is in the record books for the oldest man ever to win the championship at 45 years old, and also for having the 2nd highest knockout percentage in heavyweight history.

4. Rocky Marciano - The Rock was known for his amazing stamina in the ring like the energizer bunny you can keep beating him down but he just kept on coming. Incredible stamina, iron chin, unbeatable will to win, ability to knock you out with both hands, deadly body shots. What more can you ask for in a fighter. His 49-0 record still stands to this day.

5. Larry Holmes- The Easton Assassin was known for his lightning jab that was strong enough to knock you down. Holmes never got respect because unlike Ali he lacked an arch nemesis liek Ali had with Frazier, and he also ruled during a bleak period in heavyweight history. Spent 8 years as heavywieght Champ and went 48-0 before losing to Spinks almost tying Marciano's 49-0 record.

6. Joe Frazier- one word to describe him- relentless . Like Marciano you can throw everything at this guy and he'd still keep on coming. Owner of one of the deadliest left hooks in heavyweight history. The first man to beat Ali. His 3 dramatic fights with Ali made Smokin Joe Frazier a legend.

7. Lennox Lewis- During his title reign the British lion fought and defeated all the top heavyweights of his day including Holyfield and Tyson. Look at the list of all the fighters The British Lion has defeated and you'll see his place in history cannot be denied. Possessed one of the deadliest right hands in heavyweight history.

8.Evander Holyfield - Evander The Real Deal Holyfield is a man with incredible heart. Possesses one of the greatest chins of all time , this man didnt know the meaning of the word -quit. Proved the critics wrong time after time. Saying he wasnt big enough to be a Heavyweight he went on to win the title a record 4 times. His most dramtic win was when he defeated Iron Mike Tyson for the Title in 1996 when everyone wrote Holyfield off as a hasbeen.

9. Mike Tyson- Iron Mike Tyson's place in history is bittersweet to me because I feel had he stayed with trainer Kevin Rooney, Mike Tyson had the POTENTIAL to become the greatest Heavyweight Champ of all time. Everyone knows Tysons story. Tyson had incredible speed, incredible KO power, great finisher, a violent blood lust to destroy his opponent. Many of Tysons fight would not go past the 2nd round. During Tyson's 3 year reign of terror opponents feared Tyson so much that they would forget to fight back. With his black shoes no socks, black trunks, fade haircut and gym towel d****d on his shoulders he had an aura of invincibility that the ring had never seen before or since. In 1988 this man was frightening, his 90 second annihilation of Michael Spinks and 4 round destruction of Larry Holmes truly made him the "Baddest man on the planet".

10. Jack Dempsey- the Monnassa Mauler- was a devestating force to be reckoned with back in his day. Knocked out Jess willard in violent fashion knocking Willards teeth out literally to win the Heavyweight Title,,,,and Dempsey was outweighed by Willard by more than 50 lbs!!!. Dempsey style was the prototype to Tyson, Tyson even borrowed Dempseys style of wearing black shoes, black shorts, fade haircut from Dempsey. Going for the knock out Dempsey could knock you out with either hand. Pure assassin.

***special note - Jack Johnson is my #11. The reason I dont have him ranked higher is because he ruled in an old time era when heavyweights would fight middleweights and even welterweights. In fact Johnson himself fought many fights with many weight mismatches. Had Johnson ruled in a "Modernised Era" he would have placed higher on my list. With that being said I believe Johnson was extremely talented and can even defeat some of the men that rank higher in my list.***

Brilliant list, Foreman should be number 2 but I can't argue too much with anything else, Holmes slightly too high maybe, good list though nice summing up of each fighter.

[Demorak]

TOP 10 HEAVYWEIGHTS

1.Joe Louis
2.George Foreman
3.Ali
4.Marciano
5.Mike Tyson & Sonny Liston
6.Lennox Lewis
7.Joe Fraizer
8.Evander Holyfield
9.Larry Holmes
10.Jack Dempsey


IMO

[BKM-]

How should George Foreman be #2??
Tell me that please.

[Demorak]

How should George Foreman be #2??
Tell me that please.

why not? because Ali won over him? had there ever been a rematch barabing*barabooom* ali would be out

and weren't you the one that rated Tyson as nr 1????

[butterfly1964]

why not? because Ali won over him? had there ever been a rematch barabing*barabooom* ali would be out

and weren't you the one that rated Tyson as nr 1????

but ali was over the hill and foreman was in his prime.

[BKM-]

Some overrate Foreman. As great as he was, he doesn't belong in the top 3 imo.

[butterfly1964]

Some overrate Foreman. As great as he was, he doesn't belong in the top 3 imo.

maybe his career wasn't as good as ali, louis, dempsey, etc. but if they fought foreman, most of them would lose.