Tyson Fury?

[shawnkemp804]

Tyson was never 50lbs overweight in a fight.Here he is young ,and with some puppy fat around his hips,but otherwise pretty lean.



You say Fury is naturally low in strength,based on what? He bullied Whyte 253lbs and Chisora 260lbs.

Lol yeah you are mentally handicapped.Wilder is 1 inch shorter than Fury and naturally weighs 205 pounds. Fury has a skinny bone structure. He just comes in the ring out of shape. Fury fought Chisora 3 times and never stopped him legit, he only TKO him. The natural 200 pound David Haye destroyed a prime Chisora in 5 rounds. Also Chisora and Whyte are also out of shape. Just because you come in ring a certain weight doesn't mean you should be that weight. That is like saying Andy Ruiz is bigger than Wladimir Klistchko, Lennox Lewis,Vitali Klitschko, Anthony Joshua etc because he comes in the ring fat.

Let me repeat this again. White guys like you are proving my point. Most white guys don't know a thing about boxing. They will only pretend to like boxing when a white guy gets a belt. You make excuses for Fury because he is white, if he was black you would come here and bash him everyday.

Your boyfriend Fury who hates *******uals but kisses men on the mouth has been boxing for 16 years as a pro and all he has done is barely beat a 40 year old Wlad after Ross Purritty, Corrie Sanders, and Lamon Brewster knocked out a prime Wlad and Fury beat no talent Wilder. Lol but you goofy white dudes think that makes him a ATG. Funny stuff.

[shawnkemp804]

Hmm



Exactly.

Now we pretend Fury didn't slow down because admitting you exaggerated the movement in the first place is too difficult for you?

This man who moved so great for such a big man got floored then changed his style, Floored, not aged.

Tyson Fury never moved well, He ran like a school girl against low level opponents. The same people who claim Fury moved well are the same people who claim Mayweather was a runner. Fury is/was so bad that he could only land 17 percent of his punches against Francesco Pianeta who wasn't even throwing punches back.

[Anomalocaris]

The only moron here is your mom for not aborting you. Why would I debate a white guy who pretends to be a boxing fan. A white guy finally gets a belt after 50 years of black males dominating the sport and now white guys pretend to be boxing fans. I made a factual statement. There were 100's of boxers in the 1990's who were 6'6 250 pounds plus and nobody ever said they were super heavyweights or had a advantage. But now ESPN said 6'5 plus is a super heavyweight we have goofy white dudes like you come out the boondocks and repeat the same hilariously wrong information. I guess watching YouTubers talk about boxing made you a expert right?

Disgusting racism.

If it was the other way round you would be banned in five seconds. Or are you a 'gangsta' who will pop a cap in my ass?

[shawnkemp804]

Disgusting racism.

If it was the other way round you would be banned in five seconds. Or are you a 'gangsta' who will pop a cap in my ass?

Lol racism and then brings up something racist. Yep because i am black I am a gangsta . It is funny how you white dudes love to play the race card when you are the most racist people on the planet.

My comments are factual, white guys didn't mention boxing for 50 years when blacks where dominating the sport besides them constantly bringing up Rocky Marciano. The moment blacks stop caring about the sport and white guys get some champions it goes to your head. Now you think you are boxing experts but everything you say proves you aren't. Tyson Fury beats Wlad and you whites pretend Fury is a ATG, I can't imagine a black boxing fan saying if you beat a 40 year old boxer it makes you a ATG, Usyk beats Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first and Usyk is a ATG. When Andy Ruiz beat Joshua I didn't hear 1 Mexican say Ruiz is a ATG.

So my point stands and is factual, No racism in it. White people only like Usyk and Fury because they are white. 99 percent of whites you see talking about boxing don't even watch boxing, They will just pretend to like and know boxing whenever a white guy is champion.

[Anomalocaris]

You are a racist.

Disgusting.

Have a look at modern boxing since the Iron Curtain came down.

Apart from the heavies.

Boxing is truly diverse now, anyone can be a Monster like Inue.

[them_apples]

You are a racist.

Disgusting.

Have a look at modern boxing since the Iron Curtain came down.

Apart from the heavies.

Boxing is truly diverse now, anyone can be a Monster like Inue.

boxing has been diverse for a long time. He's a typical black guy whos clinging on to the "black guys are more athletic" idea because thats all he's got to be racist about now. If a white guy wins at anything his whole world falls apart.

[Anomalocaris]

boxing has been diverse for a long time. He's a typical black guy whos clinging on to the "black guys are more athletic" idea because thats all he's got to be racist about now. If a white guy wins at anything his whole world falls apart.

Spot on.

We may disagree on various topics but I totally respect your opinion.

Melanin means **** all.

[Marchegiano]

I'm not a diehard Dempsey fan. anyone on this forum will tell you that. my favorite fighter is Harry Greb. I like Langford. Johnson. and of course Marciano. I also rank Armstrong very high and Louis.

I defend Marciano because he is WAY better than people think he is. Thats all. I seem to be the only damn person on the forum that sees this. I get called every name in the book for it. I don't know if Marciano beats every HW in history. I don't know if he beats Johnson, or prime Charles or prime Louis.

When you guys say absurd statements about such a high caliber fighter it blows my mind thats all. You really don't know how good he actually was. Marciano was a one of a kind fighter. an all time great. Usyk is not on his level sorry.

Marciano is my favorite. HW, P4P, whatever. Sport wide, history wide, favorite, and I do not think there is a member here with the scope of knowledge to challenge my position. Or rather Z and such can argue with me about Marciano but when the subject is say Hen Pearce they're real quiet because they know **** all about BK. The few here who would talk BK gonna get real quiet when I slide backward into the dueling era. Ain't no one here knows **** about the dueling era so once I'm back to Rome it's real ****ing quiet.

So, like, no offense bro, but if your history begins in 1888 you lack the knowledge to question my choice. All you can do is prove to me you know an aspect or era in more detail than I, but full history wide? You don't even know the principles dog and therefor I don't actually give a **** if you think Fury's the GOAT or Greb's p4p the best ever.





I just get tired of the unproveable. I can't prove my opinions, especially to a stubborn old-gin like Bronny or DrZ. Things like size disparity are provable quan****** which is why I don't drop that. Or rather I do not let that topic just slide like how I allow the Marciano hate society to spread their propaganda, and yes it is, without much if any discrediting.


IMO, just bigger fish to fry.


You're never, ever, going to admit Marciano is dangerous if you believe Marciano has no physical advantages. Let's got those advantages well known in the psyche of boxing fans.


Because that's really their only beef. You can check with, you know, science, all you like. I did not make up leverage, I did not invent metabolism, these things are super independent to boxing and exactly the sort of attribute Marciano uses to his advantage. It shouldn't be argued and yet it is.



If I said Marciano KOs every man larger than him in a phone booth I'd still be told about size and power like as if that is not a categorically ****** response. Take away Marciano's name, it's the same point. a Smaller HW has advantage in a tiny confined space ... it is a duh, but hey they argue against it. Until they don't I see no reason to subject Rocco's name to their ******ity.


Likewise, you can get them to admit Ring is a promo mag financed by a promoter that printed misinformation, lies, and plagiarized works, but that'll never stop them from mentioning that POS rag or using it to discredit Marciano.

So, you'll see me bag on Ring way more than you will see me protect Marciano.



Lastly, you came.



You proved to me Marciano's record is like a lion in a cage; it needs no defense, only released.


Or to say that differently, before us Marciano was divisive

He will continue to be after us


It was me they fought against before you took up the argument and it won't be long until you see the next one coming up telling others about the greatness of Marciano.

Likewise, my anti-Marciano-ites were not Bronny and co. I dealt with dudes like Freedom and Poet. Before me Freedom/Tunney was the Marciano troll.

[Bronson66]

The only moron here is your mom for not aborting you. Why would I debate a white guy who pretends to be a boxing fan. A white guy finally gets a belt after 50 years of black males dominating the sport and now white guys pretend to be boxing fans. I made a factual statement. There were 100's of boxers in the 1990's who were 6'6 250 pounds plus and nobody ever said they were super heavyweights or had a advantage. But now ESPN said 6'5 plus is a super heavyweight we have goofy white dudes like you come out the boondocks and repeat the same hilariously wrong information. I guess watching YouTubers talk about boxing made you a expert right?

I'm not an expert,but nearly 20 years of practising boxingm and over 60 years of watching it and reading about mean that I have acquired some knowledge of it.

You. Monkey the Man ,are nothing more than a racist troll,and an ignorant POS who resorts to attacking posters families,because you have the IQ of an imbecile ,may you rot in hell and not take too long in getting there!

[Bronson66]

Marciano is my favorite. HW, P4P, whatever. Sport wide, history wide, favorite, and I do not think there is a member here with the scope of knowledge to challenge my position. Or rather Z and such can argue with me about Marciano but when the subject is say Hen Pearce they're real quiet because they know **** all about BK. The few here who would talk BK gonna get real quiet when I slide backward into the dueling era. Ain't no one here knows **** about the dueling era so once I'm back to Rome it's real ****ing quiet.

So, like, no offense bro, but if your history begins in 1888 you lack the knowledge to question my choice. All you can do is prove to me you know an aspect or era in more detail than I, but full history wide? You don't even know the principles dog and therefor I don't actually give a **** if you think Fury's the GOAT or Greb's p4p the best ever.





I just get tired of the unproveable. I can't prove my opinions, especially to a stubborn old-gin like Bronny or DrZ. Things like size disparity are provable quan****** which is why I don't drop that. Or rather I do not let that topic just slide like how I allow the Marciano hate society to spread their propaganda, and yes it is, without much if any discrediting.


IMO, just bigger fish to fry.


You're never, ever, going to admit Marciano is dangerous if you believe Marciano has no physical advantages. Let's got those advantages well known in the psyche of boxing fans.


Because that's really their only beef. You can check with, you know, science, all you like. I did not make up leverage, I did not invent metabolism, these things are super independent to boxing and exactly the sort of attribute Marciano uses to his advantage. It shouldn't be argued and yet it is.



If I said Marciano KOs every man larger than him in a phone booth I'd still be told about size and power like as if that is not a categorically ****** response. Take away Marciano's name, it's the same point. a Smaller HW has advantage in a tiny confined space ... it is a duh, but hey they argue against it. Until they don't I see no reason to subject Rocco's name to their ******ity.


Likewise, you can get them to admit Ring is a promo mag financed by a promoter that printed misinformation, lies, and plagiarized works, but that'll never stop them from mentioning that POS rag or using it to discredit Marciano.

So, you'll see me bag on Ring way more than you will see me protect Marciano.



Lastly, you came.



You proved to me Marciano's record is like a lion in a cage; it needs no defense, only released.


Or to say that differently, before us Marciano was divisive

He will continue to be after us


It was me they fought against before you took up the argument and it won't be long until you see the next one coming up telling others about the greatness of Marciano.

Likewise, my anti-Marciano-ites were not Bronny and co. I dealt with dudes like Freedom and Poet. Before me Freedom/Tunney was the Marciano troll.

I'm not anti Marciano,I consider him to have been a great fighter and champion,and I've many, many times stated that.

I'm anti hero worshipping,"Rockistas",who readily resort to lying to hype their Rocky agenda.


You want to talk about "The Game Chicken?
Have you got "Bells Life In London,"?
"Boxiana" ?
"Fights For The Championship & Celebrated Ring Battles," ?
Knuckles & Gloves "by Bohun Lynch?

"The Boxing Companion," by Denzil Batchelor"?
" Inside Facts On Pugilism ,"by George Siler ?
How about,"Ten & Out " by Alexander Johnson?