The Marciano Court Marshall That Many Deny Happened

[Bronson66]

In that same book I believe page 302 or 303 that I posted it says Marciano out Ali out with a body shot in sparring and Ali demanded more money to continue. It says Ali took a knee.

if the page is wrong then correct it for me donât play ****** but its in the book

So Marciano took an unprofessional liberty and hit Ali with a full powered body shot,and Ali took a knee.What's your point?

[Bronson66]

I actually would bet on it that he did - just we donâÂÂt know. They are both fighters after all.

the type of people Marciano associated with could be murderers. The people who sat at the table with him.

you canât kill someone with your barehands and not have it effect you in your personal life. Marciano was an ax murderer in the ring. All these guys have âissues?by general standards. Its not normal to workout 9 hours a day for 10 years

So because Marciano was a fighter, he probably ****d women,and beat them up?
In retirement Marciano did some loan sharking,and reportedly roughed up some late payers,I haven't heard that he did anything more serious than that.

[them_apples]

If there was ever a meaner - rougher and more heartless character in the ring I don’t know them. Marciano has almost no sense of humor. The only time I ever saw him laugh on film was when he talked about how hard it is to quit fighting and when he accidentally hit Moore after the bell and took one back in return.

watch the interviews with him the mans 100 percent business 24/7

[them_apples]

So because Marciano was a fighter, he probably ****d women,and beat them up?
In retirement Marciano did some loan sharking,and reportedly roughed up some late payers,I haven't heard that he did anything more serious than that.

No my reason would be based on other things he did and the company he kept. Marciano was in many many street fights and had a hot temper. Was said to be on edge at all times.

from what I have read about him he just seems like the type of guy who would hit anyone who pissed him off and just because we don’t know doesn’t mean its true.

you say he didn’t kill anyone. Well he almost killed Vingo. I would guarantee that wasn’t the first time he did something like that.

same thing with Jake Lamotta. He very likely killed some people but you can’t talk about it. Lamotta openly admits to raping girls with his friends in his youth.

[QueensburyRules]

So Marciano took an unprofessional liberty and hit Ali with a full powered body shot,and Ali took a knee.What's your point?

- - Body shots were legal in the Computer Tourney as anyone who follows boxing knows...yer welcome...again...and again ad infinitum...

[Bronson66]

- - Body shots were legal in the Computer Tourney as anyone who follows boxing knows...yer welcome...again...and again ad infinitum...

No they were not,no real punches were to be thrown.

The computer tourney had no fights at all,just information fed into a machine. The Marciano ,V Ali fake fight was a separate attraction, added afterwards with several different endings scripted,depending in which country it was to be shown.
With every new post you plummet down further to a new low.
I have Dundee's 2 books 5 Ali ones , 3 Marciano ones and 2 Pacheco ones ,do us a favour do some research, get informed on the subjects you stick your ignorant nose into , you imbecile.

[Bronson66]

No my reason would be based on other things he did and the company he kept. Marciano was in many many street fights and had a hot temper. Was said to be on edge at all times.

from what I have read about him he just seems like the type of guy who would hit anyone who pissed him off and just because we donât know doesnât mean its true.

you say he didnât kill anyone. Well he almost killed Vingo. I would guarantee that wasnât the first time he did something like that.

same thing with Jake Lamotta. He very likely killed some people but you canât talk about it. Lamotta openly admits to raping girls with his friends in his youth.

You have no examples to give, not about killing anyone and Marciano did not have lots of street fights according to the books I have read on him and his own interviews.Marciano v Vingo was a licensed fight,with an unfortunate ending.You are fantasising here. Lamotta ****d his best friends girl friend,that doesn't mean he went out on gang ****s. You cannot guarantee anything because you have zero proof to offer,just your own imagination,which appears to be working overtime here.

[Willie Pep 229]

I also heard (but not confirmed) that Marciano first claimed he didn't do it, but they found the victim's wallet under his mattress. LOL

He then tried to talk his way out of it by claiming the guy was a h omo***ual and had grabbed him.

That didn't explain the wallet.

He missed Operation Market-Garden (I believe the Court Marshall's dates suggest that's the operation he missed.)

[Mr Mitts]

while I am a huge Marciano fan I acknowledge his image of being a pleasant hard working family man is purely made up by the media and even his relatives.

Marciano was a thug in his youth, he found himself taking up boxing as a pro age 24 because he failed at every other job he tried. If you couldnâÂÂt keep a steady job at 24 and could only resort to fighting what does that tell you about him? One day he came home and tried to hide the fact that he had seriously hurt someone at the ice rink one day. A large kid much bigger than he and his friends had picked a fight with them and rocky managed to knock the kid unconscious to the point he was twitching. It was then and there Marciano said he knew he had to be careful when hauling off and slugging someone. His entire boxing career sort of devulged into finding ways to get close to you and land that perfect shot. He did this in many ways like baiting - feigning clumsiness - non stop pressure and crouching very low. You couldnâÂÂt block punches because he would punch your arms. So many would simply backpedal or run.

the other thing is while he had a record of something like 9 wins and 4 losses - without any skill and training at all he knocked the majority of his opponentâÂÂs out cold even while weighing 160 lbs. power was on the menu from a very young age.

in retirement Marciano went a bit crazy since he had dedicated 10+ years of his life to spartan living and sacrifice. What this does to your mind and body we can only speculate - but the legionaires after serving their term were entitled to state run brothels on their return to occupy the veterans and keep them from destroying the entire city, which they did sometimes during tribunes. Marciano basically ate and f.*cked himself to death in retirement - he was noted to have broken a pay phone off the wall with a punch for stealing a quarter off of him. Temperamental and restless - not always the most fun guy to hang out with.

the reason I put Marciano on a pedestal among heavies is because its well documented how dedicated and hard the man trained. There is actually no comparison between he and other heavies. HeâÂÂs simply in better condition than all of them. He can outlast them and recover instantly from even the hardest blows. He can punch extremely hard both naturally but also from hard work in the gym that developed his power. When someone goes the distance with him or manages to go a few rounds itâÂÂs because he is also a very short limbed fighter who has to get very close to you to land. His reach is 68 compared to Tysons 72 yet they are the same height.

however the men who did this were very slick and capable of doing this. There are many heavyweights who are not. I believe Marciano would have hurt or knocked the majority of heavyweights out that would try to **** with him or coast on the ropes.

Marciano could sense fatigue and he would hit the gas the second he noticed a fighter trying to catch his breath. This alone would defeat a lot of fighters. You can see in many bouts that appear competitive and they just take a nose dive for no apparent reason - this is because they are exhausted from trying to avoid being Koed. They feel a shot on the arm and it numbs them and they think damn I better not get caught by this guy and the whole plan turns into survive and avoid.

The red above can be observed several times on Rocky film. It makes perfect sense he would behave this way. In fact I believe it is normal boxing behavior since you see most guys step it up when the opponent seems tired or hurt. Duran gave the ailing no rest and went straight after them, visibly hurrying, even running, to catch up with his injured quarry. Marciano had the same attitude about getting the job over with and then going out for a big dinner and celebration. The faster the better.

[Bronson66]

I also heard (but not confirmed) that Marciano first claimed he didn't do it, but they found the victim's wallet under his mattress. LOL

He then tried to talk his way out of it by claiming the guy was a h omo***ual and had grabbed him.

That didn't explain the wallet.

He missed Operation Market-Garden (I believe the Court Marshall's dates suggest that's the operation he missed.)

That's right ,Marciano never went to France ,he was in the stockade.
Prior to the mugging Marciano had gone AWOL a couple of times,he wasn't a model soldier.