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    #41
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - -You can try and not cry so.
    It's not hard to prove you wrong, Queenie. I've been kicking you around for quite some time.

    If you want to get kicked around further, just ask. I can help you with this information, little guy

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      #42
      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      It's not hard to prove you wrong, Queenie. I've been kicking you around for quite some time.

      If you want to get kicked around further, just ask. I can help you with this information, little guy
      - -All you know is in your name descriptor.

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        #43
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
        - -All you know is in your name descriptor.
        All I know is that you keep ducking the easy questions


        Are you tired of getting embarrassed yet? Did old jack duck Joe Jeannette or did he try to fight him in New York.

        I'll wait for your response before I continue your spanking

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          #44
          Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          All I know is that you keep ducking the easy questions


          Are you tired of getting embarrassed yet? Did old jack duck Joe Jeannette or did he try to fight him in New York.

          I'll wait for your response before I continue your spanking
          - -You:

          ****in up the boxing game.

          8th grade lame.

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            #45
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - -You:

            ****in up the boxing game.

            8th grade lame.
            You:

            Getting shlt wrong all the time. Not knowing shlt. Afraid to admit you're wrong and crying because you can't handle the truth


            I knew you'd back down, pvssy. Run along now When you want to learn something, let me know, yea?

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              #46
              Originally posted by travestyny View Post

              I knew you'd back down, pvssy. Run along now When you want to learn something, let me know, yea?
              - -You pheweee...

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                #47
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                - -JJOHNSON was ducking both Sam and Joe when they were in Paris, so God Bless the French who finally did something right to give us a fight for the ages.

                Sadly Sam never defended. Why?
                Oh really. JJohnson was ducking Sam Langford and Joe Jeannette, huh?







                Looks like you fvvcked up again, Queenie. Time for you to stop telling lies.


                How about you take up tennis?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  Oh really. JJohnson was ducking Sam Langford and Joe Jeannette, huh?







                  Looks like you fvvcked up again, Queenie. Time for you to stop telling lies.


                  How about you take up tennis?
                  Jack Johnson ducked black contenders after he became champ too? Damn dude. Isn't the simple answer just that was the time these guys fought in? That whites barely fought black fighters because they didn't want a black fighter to hold the title, especially the heavyweight title, which is why they had a separate "colored" heavyweight title? I mean, the fear was so great that once a black man held the title he didn't even want to fight OTHER black men. And then when another black man held the title, his management gave him a set of rules to behave like a gentleman so he wouldn't remind people of the previous champion, so he's have a better image and others would later get shots at the title down the line.

                  This is a time when you still had Buckwheat in the Little Rascals and blackface was still a thing. Kate Smith, in addition to God Bless America had a song called That's Why Darkies Were Born and reporters thought it was okay to nickname Johnson The Tar Baby. So I think those things had something to do with bkack fighters not getting shots at the title, don't you?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                    Jack Johnson ducked black contenders after he became champ too? Damn dude. Isn't the simple answer just that was the time these guys fought in? That whites barely fought black fighters because they didn't want a black fighter to hold the title, especially the heavyweight title, which is why they had a separate "colored" heavyweight title? I mean, the fear was so great that once a black man held the title he didn't even want to fight OTHER black men. And then when another black man held the title, his management gave him a set of rules to behave like a gentleman so he wouldn't remind people of the previous champion, so he's have a better image and others would later get shots at the title down the line.

                    This is a time when you still had Buckwheat in the Little Rascals and blackface was still a thing. Kate Smith, in addition to God Bless America had a song called That's Why Darkies Were Born and reporters thought it was okay to nickname Johnson The Tar Baby. So I think those things had something to do with bkack fighters not getting shots at the title, don't you?
                    Well, that's the point that I'm getting across. Jack Johnson didn't duck black fighters. At the time frame that we are discussing, Jack Johnson fought Jim Johnson after becoming champ...and Jim Johnson was certainly a black man.

                    Jack Johnson had fights with Joe Jeannette, Sam McVey, and Sam Langford fall through after he was champ. As is the case with McVey and Langford, the promoter backed out of the agreed to fights because of Johnson being brought up on the Mann Act charges. The fight against Jeannette fell through when the NY commission wouldn't allow it to take place.

                    So talk of Jack Johnson drawing the color line is complete BS.

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                      #50
                      - -8th graders hi******* a Sully thread is it?

                      Maybe you Nancys didn't understand that Harry Wills and Jeannette had Sam as the best of his era and didn't think much of JJOHNSON for ducking them when in Paris for all them years.

                      Prob didn't know James Earl Jones cut his teeth in the black and white face genre to much derision by the early politically corrects. Moreover, by dint over having white and Indian forebears, they hollered he was too white to play JJOHNSON in The Great White Hope. Same deal when he portrayed Paul Robison with even Coretta King opposed to him. The production had to relocate to England to salvage their finances.

                      Jesse Jackson once introduced him at a function as James Earl Ray, Martins assassin.

                      Did you know the King of blackface, Al Jolson was feted as a King anytime he was in Harlem, the reason being he introduced black music to the greater public. Jolson also sponsored several black performers in their early forays in the entertainment biz.

                      Ain't this big broadway hit Hamilton modern blackface portraying historical American revolutionaries? Ted Danson with encouragement of his GF whoopie briefly had a blackface act that boiled the bowels of the usual suspects.

                      At any rate, Langford, not Johnson was the Boston "Tarbaby," the invincible character in the uncle remas tales, hardly the slur made out by moderns

                      But sadly even that history is being gentrified much like historic black neighborhoods.

                      This just a snippet of SAMs history. Their are several comprehensive bios that can be had.

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