Originally posted by Yaman
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Why did Sullivan refused to fight any black fighters?
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Originally posted by The Underboss View Postjeffries was out of his prime in 1910, and had a 6 year lay-off of boxing. its tough for someone to come out of retirement of 6 years out of shape and start training for 1 boxing fight. jeffries would of KO johnson if he was still boxing all through the 1900's.
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I just want to say that Sullivan issued his own challenge through his manager, Jack Barnett, to fight Peter Jackson in Feb of 1890, and they were to meet in a private meeting "winner take all" fight at Cronheim's Theatre in Boston, as stated by the Chicago Daily Tribune, Washington Post, etc., on Feb 12th, 1890.
"Peter Declines With Thanks" - Chicago Daily Tribune
"Jackon declined the offer and said he was suprised that Sullivan should have made it." - Washington Post
Just something to think about for those saying Sullivan was "scared".
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Originally posted by butterfly1964 View PostThen why didn't he fight him when he was champion?
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Originally posted by Sharkey View PostI just want to say that Sullivan issued his own challenge through his manager, Jack Barnett, to fight Peter Jackson in Feb of 1890, and they were to meet in a private meeting "winner take all" fight at Cronheim's Theatre in Boston, as stated by the Chicago Daily Tribune, Washington Post, etc., on Feb 12th, 1890.
"Peter Declines With Thanks" - Chicago Daily Tribune
"Jackon declined the offer and said he was suprised that Sullivan should have made it." - Washington Post
Just something to think about for those saying Sullivan was "scared".
But I never heard of what Sharkey is Quoting before. 1890 is just before Sully melted into full dissapation, his state when he lost his only fight of his career to Corbett.
Any experts want to weigh in on this?
Sadly Sharkey wasn't with us long.
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Originally posted by CletusVanDamme View PostJohnson was too green at that point of Sullivans reign and only established himself while on the hunt for Burns. Burn had made a dozen or so defenses before Johnson fought him. This would be like Klitscho calling out a unknown guy with 10 or so fights. Why would he do it?
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As Dempsey himself admitted: He was afraid of Sam Langford. The black fighters, especially at heavyweight, were hungrier and more athletic and just better.
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Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostAs Dempsey himself admitted: He was afraid of Sam Langford. The black fighters, especially at heavyweight, were hungrier and more athletic and just better.
Jack a skinny kid defrauded of his mgr sleeping on park benches, standing in soup lines in a foreign country with 3 broken ribs to show for the fight purses he was defrauded out of when he was offered a fight against the best heavy, indeed fighter in the world, that being Sam Langford.
Dempsey was a gracious fighter in his praise for Langford when he was on top and blind Sam barely scraping by as he was for Tunney, Louis, Rocky, and Ali.
Never liked beating dead horses, but sometimes it becomes a civic duty.
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