STUDY: Fourth Covid Vaccine STILL doesn't Stop Omicron

[TonyGe]

Look we have age brackets with numbers we know the obese and older people are the ones dying for the most part. We now have omicron with a 99.99 survival rate. What about this do you not understand? We know Pfizer said it doesn't work on omicron. Then the CEO comes out and says we'll be back to normal by spring. These are his own words not mine. So they're making a new vaxx for something with a 99.99% that will be pretty much gone by the time the new vaxx comes online. How do we know this? Because he told us so!

My doctor? You serious? She had two seizures after her vaccine and now has lupus. She told me to stay away from the vaccine. That my immune system is good enough to handle covid. Whats funny is when she told me that I starred looking for a new doctor. Then we got it and sure enough we recovered like she said! She was right about my hardware in my back. She was right about me and covid. Yeah I trust her. My spine doctor feels the same way. I record my visits because the wife always wants to know what the doctor said. So yeah I have all this on my phone in recordings.

You make these crazy posts about Healthcare workers when you know they can get it and go back to work 5 days after and spread it. I've literally seen nurses crying over this. So how does some HC mandate even make sense when the vaxxed can get it and spread it?

Listen Tony if you want it get as many boosters as they'll let you. I have zero issue with anyone making that choice. It's just a shame that you tell people on here to go get this vaccine when you know they spread covid just the same. It's a shame your for mandates knowing you can spread covid and still get it with the jabs. Seriously, I can't even wrap my head around the way you think knowing all we know. It's like you completely ignore what they're now saying. Why are you ignoring the science that you champion?

I'm not ignoring the science. Did you read my post that you keep referring to. I said at the very beginning of this pandemic when they realized that Covid was a serious issue they should have implemented vaccine mandates not leaving it up to individuals to decide for themselves. Now down the road the situation has changed somewhat because Omicron is so infectious. Everyone who works in a hospital nursing home or Clinic should be mandated to have all necessary vaccinations not just for Covid. It should be a condition of employment. I think the supreme Court agreed that vaccine mandates are OK in a health care facility. The US Army mandates vaccinations for crying out loud. Their job in part is killing people if required. The hospitals supposedly are trying to save lives.

In a 5 to 4 decision, the Supreme Court agreed that the final rule mandating the vaccine for healthcare workers in facilities participating in Medicare and/or Medicaid “fits neatly within” the authority Congress has granted to HHS to impose conditions on federal funds.

“After all, ensuring that providers take steps to avoid transmitting a dangerous virus to their patients is consistent with the fundamental principle of the medical profession: first, do no harm,” an opinion released alongside the decision stated. “It would be the ‘very opposite of efficient and effective administration for a facility that is supposed to make people well to make them sick with COVID–19.’”

[Madison Boxing]

I'm not ignoring the science. Did you read my post that you keep referring to. I said at the very beginning of this pandemic when they realized that Covid was a serious issue they should have implemented vaccine mandates not leaving it up to individuals to decide for themselves. Now down the road the situation has changed somewhat because Omicron is so infectious. Everyone who works in a hospital nursing home or Clinic should be mandated to have all necessary vaccinations not just for Covid. It should be a condition of employment. I think the supreme Court agreed that vaccine mandates are OK in a health care facility. The US Army mandates vaccinations for crying out loud. Their job in part is killing people if required. The hospitals supposedly are trying to save lives.

who cares about whether other people have the jabs or not. youve got your 3 jabs (4th one coming up) are they not enough for you to feel protected?

[TonyGe]

United States Supreme Court in regards to vaccines in health care.

In a 5 to 4 decision, the Supreme Court agreed that the final rule mandating the vaccine for healthcare workers in facilities participating in Medicare and/or Medicaid “fits neatly within” the authority Congress has granted to HHS to impose conditions on federal funds.

“After all, ensuring that providers take steps to avoid transmitting a dangerous virus to their patients is consistent with the fundamental principle of the medical profession: first, do no harm,” an opinion released alongside the decision stated. “It would be the ‘very opposite of efficient and effective administration for a facility that is supposed to make people well to make them sick with COVID–19.’”

[GrandpaBernard]

reality will strike these chumps as the plandemic ends in Spring

pity the fools who thinks politics will shelter them

call it off in Spring so the economy operates at 100%

build the market back up in the Summer

economy looks good for midterm elections in mid Autumn

these fat twats will woman up

and accept rona as apart of life

Like they have done for the flu and cold

[man down]

I'm not ignoring the science. Did you read my post that you keep referring to. I said at the very beginning of this pandemic when they realized that Covid was a serious issue they should have implemented vaccine mandates not leaving it up to individuals to decide for themselves. Now down the road the situation has changed somewhat because Omicron is so infectious. Everyone who works in a hospital nursing home or Clinic should be mandated to have all necessary vaccinations not just for Covid. It should be a condition of employment. I think the supreme Court agreed that vaccine mandates are OK in a health care facility. The US Army mandates vaccinations for crying out loud. Their job in part is killing people if required. The hospitals supposedly are trying to save lives.

Yes you are ignoring the science. Look at the studies from Israel. We lean on them because they're the test country. They're saying the boosters are NOT working even with antibodies at 800. They also said too many boosters screw up the immune system. Yet you wanted this to be a mandate from the start? Lol stay in CANADA. We're a ok with choice here.

Yes the Supreme Court approved vaccines for Healthcare workers and military. Why? Because they receive federal funding so it's a non starter and we have to follow the constitution. Just like they did for non federal workers with no mandate.

AGAIN, Omicron has a survival rate of 99.999% last I checked thats better than the flu and you still want a mandate for it knowing we have zero idea of some effects. We do know VAERS gives us the numbers and they are bound by the government to give correct numbers by law as it was signed into law in the 80s. We also know that VAERS is said to report 1% of side effects. But you want to mandate something when we don't know all the numbers of side effects and knowing the vaccine doesn't stop infection or transmission. This is so crazy. You're arguing over a vaccine that doesn't work to stop infection and transmission. You're arguing against science. This is unreal but thats ok we're moving on, with or without you.

[man down]

***** just said 210 million Americans are vaxxed. Last week he said we were down to 34 million unvaxxed. These fools have been lying about numbers left and right!

[TernceBudCharlo]

Well good for you. But I still think you're crazy for not getting vaccinated and giving yourself the best possible chance of not getting covid. And as the virus mutates, there will be new vaccines to adjust for the new variants. Like a new adapter for an electrical product or an updated operating system for your computer. Don't wanna get it and wanna feel worse, fine, go ahead. There's an omicron vaccine coming out in March and I'll be sure to get one, so I can be as protected as possible. Only side effect I've had is shoulder pain.

Only people I know getting covid are vaccinated bro

[TernceBudCharlo]

'stealing your ideas'? That's just odd, man. They ain't your ideas... unless you're claiming ownership of the field of virology now? The idea that COVID might mutate to evade vaccines awasn't even remotely a secret and at least here in the UK right from the start of the rollout we had our Minister of Health mooting the possibility that vaccines might become an annual thing like Flu vaccines - at least in the vulnerable.

Each new variant that's come out the question was asked will it still work? It's well known that coronaviruses mutate and was from the beginning just as it was widely circulated that it vaccine protection might wane... in fact this has all been brought up before in other threads with Man Down saying how they lied and me providing links to multiple News articles from the rollout period demonstrating that in fact these possibilities were known and indeed under public discussion at the time - at least in the UK they were and I struggle to imagine they weren't in the US too...

And yes. I saw the thread about the poll showing an alarming proportion of ********s in favour of authoritarian measures to enforce or coerce vaccination and that's actually quite disturbing... in fact things in your country are something of a mess all in all I think, I've also seen polls of consrvatives suggesting 30% thing that violence might be necessary to save the country. I think you guys might be having some serious problems over the coming years.

Also I didn't know you were a father... got two boys of my own, plus an older daughter and stepdaughter from previous relationships. Best wishes to you and your boy man... and despite that I don't share your scepticism of the vaccines (or at least I got decent trust in my countries regulatory bodies and research community) I do respect your values about healthy living - diet and exercise - and taking care of oursleves which is where good health really begins. Anyways stay safe.

Y'all laughed at us when we said the virus would mutate and that vaccine would become far less effective than 95%. Well maybe not you specifically but a lot of the hadcore pro vax people def did.

You've always been cool with me opposing mandates and I respect that, you're not one of the people that wants me dead.

Thanks for the respect, it's all love back, I don't think any less of people who support the vaccines, I just see the world different that's all. I just believe in free speech that's all, I say this stuff because I want the world to be healthy and happy, at the end of the day I don't care if people dont listen to me, if you think the vaccine is best for your kids, that's your decision to make as a father and I got nothing but respect for that and hope it is the right call. I'm not even saying don't take the vaccine I just said how it's alarming that I know so many more people getting side effects than the studies show.

[TonyGe]

Y'all laughed at us when we said the virus would mutate and that vaccine would become far less effective than 95%. Well maybe not you specifically but a lot of the hadcore pro vax people def did.

You've always been cool with me opposing mandates and I respect that, you're not one of the people that wants me dead.

Thanks for the respect, it's all love back, I don't think any less of people who support the vaccines, I just see the world different that's all. I just believe in free speech that's all, I say this stuff because I want the world to be healthy and happy, at the end of the day I don't care if people dont listen to me, if you think the vaccine is best for your kids, that's your decision to make as a father and I got nothing but respect for that and hope it is the right call. I'm not even saying don't take the vaccine I just said how it's alarming that I know so many more people getting side effects than the studies show.

Terrance ... I don't know anybody that has had a bad reaction to the vaccines. No one.. No one in the group that I have coffee with every morning before this latest mini lockdown. No one they know has had a bad reaction Even my daughter who had cancer and a stem cell transplant. She had no immune system when she got her Covid shots. My in-laws who are in their late 80s did not get sick from the Covid shots. Free speech is important but that applies to people on both sides of a conversation.

[Dakuwaqa]

Y'all laughed at us when we said the virus would mutate and that vaccine would become far less effective than 95%. Well maybe not you specifically but a lot of the hadcore pro vax people def did.

You've always been cool with me opposing mandates and I respect that, you're not one of the people that wants me dead.

Thanks for the respect, it's all love back, I don't think any less of people who support the vaccines, I just see the world different that's all. I just believe in free speech that's all, I say this stuff because I want the world to be healthy and happy, at the end of the day I don't care if people dont listen to me, if you think the vaccine is best for your kids, that's your decision to make as a father and I got nothing but respect for that and hope it is the right call. I'm not even saying don't take the vaccine I just said how it's alarming that I know so many more people getting side effects than the studies show.

Who laughed? Post sources suggesting the vaccine wouldn’t mutate. Thanks