STUDY: Fourth Covid Vaccine STILL doesn't Stop Omicron

[Anthony342]

No the ones that didn't go to the ICU did not feel duped. The ones that did go and recovered because the vaccine is effective in preventing death didn't feel duped. Anybody who has paid attention knows that Omicron can evade the immune system and vaccinated individuals are much more protected from a bad outcome versus unvaccinated people. The people who feel duped were the ones who listened to podcasters, assorted nutcases, scam artists who stand to profit, and politicians who want to pander to their base due to the upcoming election and are now being told by doctors it's too late to get vaccinated to dramatically reduce the chance of their demise as they are carted off to the ICU.. Those guys are most likely pissed.

Boom, this right here. The vaccine doesn't guarantee you don't get covid or that you can't pass it on. What the vaccine does is if you get covid, it increases the chance that you probably won't die from it if you get it. So get it or don't, I don't care. People need to quit spreading misinformation. And these restrictions need to end already. This virus should be considered endemic by now, like the flu, which also has variants. Other countries are loosening up and even some states have, so this crap needs to stop, hopefully when summer rolls around and cases go down again.

[TonyGe]

What do all you viscous name calling haters have to say to us now? You have to keep lying because the whole house of cards crumbles. Covid, the vax, the mandates.

An expertsays this...

It provides double the protection against being infected with Omicron.

[GhostofDempsey]

Boom, this right here. The vaccine doesn't guarantee you don't get covid or that you can't pass it on. What the vaccine does is if you get covid, it increases the chance that you probably won't die from it if you get it. So get it or don't, I don't care. People need to quit spreading misinformation. And these restrictions need to end already. This virus should be considered endemic by now, like the flu, which also has variants. Other countries are loosening up and even some states have, so this crap needs to stop, hopefully when summer rolls around and cases go down again.

That's not what the CDC director told us last year. She eventually had to walk those claims back. This is part of the frustration with misinformation about this virus. When the top authority on the pandemic gets it wrong, there isn't a lot of faith that they know what they're talking about. They say it's now a pandemic of the unvaccinated, which is also false. There is no way for them to prove that only the unvaccinated are catching and passing on COVID. Remember when they told us the J&J shot was perfectly safe? Now they say you should only take Pfizer or Moderna. They didn't have time to properly test and research the vaccine. So the general public became the case study, the guinea pigs. Real numbers in the thousands of how many people died from the vaccine are all over the place. This is why there is so much push back on these mandates.

[pesticid]

The vaccine doesnt prevent infection, it keeps you from getting deathly ill. /thread

You know how they broadcast number of people who died from Covid, it would be really helpful to mention how many of those who died were vaccinated and how many were not vaccinated. It should help the propaganda machine, no?

[TonyGe]

That's not what the CDC director told us last year. She eventually had to walk those claims back. This is part of the frustration with misinformation about this virus. When the top authority on the pandemic gets it wrong, there isn't a lot of faith that they know what they're talking about. They say it's now a pandemic of the unvaccinated, which is also false. There is no way for them to prove that only the unvaccinated are catching and passing on COVID. Remember when they told us the J&J shot was perfectly safe? Now they say you should only take Pfizer or Moderna. They didn't have time to properly test and research the vaccine. So the general public became the case study, the guinea pigs. Real numbers in the thousands of how many people died from the vaccine are all over the place. This is why there is so much push back on these mandates.

Are you nuts. Do you realize how many people would have died if there were no vaccines. Just getting the virus and taking your chances is a remedy for a fool. Even in the latest paper published by the CDC the vaccines were very effective in keeping people safe and alive prior to the Delta wave The J&J vaccine that was shelved had rare side effects but they were still pulled. By the way the latest study dealing with natural immunity has a serious flaw. It did not include the people who died from contacting Covid. Most of those people were unvaccinated. It did not include a possible side effect of developing long Covid or the increased chance of developing heart inflammation. In order to get natural immunity people have to get infected. Connect the dots for God's sake.

[GhostofDempsey]

Are you nuts. Do you realize how many people would have died if there were no vaccines. Just getting the virus and taking your chances is a remedy for a fool. Even in the latest paper published by the CDC the vaccines were very effective in keeping people safe and alive prior to the Delta wave The J&J vaccine that was shelved had rare side effects but they were still pulled. By the way the latest study dealing with natural immunity has a serious flaw. It did not include the people who died from contacting Covid. Most of those people were unvaccinated. It did not include a possible side effect of developing long Covid or the increased chance of developing heart inflammation. In order to get natural immunity people have to get infected. Connect the dots for God's sake.

Tens of thousands of people died after taking the vaccine, but because they died within 14 days of the vax, they weren't considered vaccinated (according to the CDC, you're not considered vaccinated until after 14 days of your second shot), so they were listed as unvaxxed deaths. Not to mention it was a convenient way to lift the blame off the vaccination for killing them in the first place.

This entire pandemic was weaponized and politicized. We'll never know the amount of actual COVID deaths since they classified so many deaths from other causes as COVID. Connect the dots on how a pandemic was used to fear-monger people into compliance.

[TonyGe]

Tens of thousands of people died after taking the vaccine, but because they died within 14 days of the vax, they weren't considered vaccinated (according to the CDC, you're not considered vaccinated until after 14 days of your second shot), so they were listed as unvaxxed deaths. Not to mention it was a convenient way to lift the blame off the vaccination for killing them in the first place.

This entire pandemic was weaponized and politicized. We'll never know the amount of actual COVID deaths since they classified so many deaths from other causes as COVID. Connect the dots on how a pandemic was used to fear-monger people into compliance.

How the heck do you know that those people who you claim died from the vaccine didn't already have Covid. The odds say they did considering how fast and efficiently the virus spread. So if I'm interpreting what you are saying correctly every one who got vaccinated and died was pure and clean from any infection. Come on we both know that's impossible. All you have to do is look at the excess deaths data from prior to the pandemic and compare them to when the pandemic started. Are you claiming that every country in the world that keeps those types of records faked the deaths. Get real man. I do agree that the pandemic was weoponized however we differ on who did that.

[GhostofDempsey]

All you have to do is look at the excess deaths data from prior to the pandemic and compare them to when the pandemic started. Are you claiming that every country in the world that keeps those types of records faked the deaths. Get real man.

During the peak of COVID, death rates in Massachusetts were examined by cause. There was a significant drop in deaths caused by heart attacks, diabetes, cancer, strokes, etc., while COVID deaths spiked in comparison the following year. That's just in one state.

[TonyGe]

During the peak of COVID, death rates in Massachusetts were examined by cause. There was a significant drop in deaths caused by heart attacks, diabetes, cancer, strokes, etc., while COVID deaths spiked in comparison the following year. That's just in one state.

Dude look at the overall numbers. The number of deaths from all sources in the US, Canada and other countries was much higher than they should have been. When the pandemic arrived deaths shot up.
Right now unvaccinated people are in the ICU at a much higher rate than vaccinated people when you look at their numbers per 100K.

2680 people died of Covid in the US yesterday
Over 1500 so far today and the day isn't over.

Does a piano have to fall on your head before you realize that you are standing in a bad place on this issue??. Go get vaccinated..

[GhostofDempsey]

Dude look at the overall numbers. The number of deaths from all sources in the US, Canada and other countries was much higher than they should have been. When the pandemic arrived deaths shot up.
Right now unvaccinated people are in the ICU at a much higher rate than vaccinated people when you look at their numbers per 100K.

Most of these deaths are people with pre-existing conditions or who were on death's door with other ailments. Elderly, obese and people with immune disorders took the biggest hits. When terminal cancer patients catch the flu on their deathbed, the death isn't classified as a flu death. When someone who has the flu drops dead of a heart attack, they don't say he died from complications do to the flu. This is what was going on with COVID. Yes, it was more contagious than the ordinary flu strains, but it was highly politicized and weaponized. Remember, many ********s refused to take the vaccine if it was cleared under the ***** admin. Then they used it to to enforce lockdowns and mail-in ballots and now it's being forced on people while big pharma cashes in and incompetent and corrupt slime bags like Fauci toot their own horn.