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    Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
    The problem with a statement like "most of the the time he shoots it seems to go in" is that it simply isn't true. His shot to goal percentage is about 12%.

    He isn't a complete player, nothing like it. All you've done is listed different goalscoring attributes. How many goals did he set up in the league last year? 3? People say the same thing about C.Ronaldo and it's bollocks. To be a 'complete player' you have to also be a great creator for others, which Bale is not. He has no guile, no vision.

    The point people were making was that it isn't about him 'looking impressive', it's when it gets to a point where the strikers suffer where he becomes a problem.

    A 50m+ player he is not.
    In the season before last when he was playing on the left wing he set up a lot more than he did this season just gone, you can't base it off one season. Plus, just because he doesn't have the assist stats doesn't mean he doesn't create chances, it still requires the other players to put the ball in the net, something which Spurs find hard to do with their current strikers.
    Adebayor was awful last season, Defoe blows hot and cold and when Crouch/Pavlyuchenko were there they were never prolific players for Spurs. I'm sure with better strikers he would have more assists to his name because i've seen him serve up chances on a plate to other Spurs players and they have floundered them on many occasions.

    I know the point people are trying to make but you've got to take into account who else plays for Spurs. There is a reason why he feels he has to do it all himself because half the time Spurs are struggling to score. I lost count of the amount of times he bailed (no pun intended!) out Spurs last season because the rest of the team was under-performing.

    If you tell Bale to stop shooting and instead pass to Adebayor or Defoe then Spurs will never get anywhere.

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      Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
      The problem with a statement like "most of the the time he shoots it seems to go in" is that it simply isn't true. His shot to goal percentage is about 12%.

      He isn't a complete player, nothing like it. All you've done is listed different goalscoring attributes. How many goals did he set up in the league last year? 3? People say the same thing about C.Ronaldo and it's bollocks. To be a 'complete player' you have to also be a great creator for others, which Bale is not. He has no guile, no vision.

      The point people were making was that it isn't about him 'looking impressive', it's when it gets to a point where the strikers suffer where he becomes a problem.

      A 50m+ player he is not.
      Also, with the Ronaldo criticism, imo he's assisted plenty at both United and Real over the seasons. But i disagree with ''to be a complete player you have to be a great creator for others''.

      Both Ronaldo and Bale graduated from being a standard winger where they showed they can assist others to a more free role in the team which allowed them to score many more goals. Just because they assist less than they used to doesn't mean they don't have the talent to assist others anymore, they have found new and more effective roles in their respective teams. Doesn't make them any less complete because they've already shown us what they can do in previous seasons.

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        Bale and C. Ronaldo are the kinds of players that excite simply minds.

        Much prefer players with intelligence.

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          Originally posted by Joe2608 View Post
          Also, with the Ronaldo criticism, imo he's assisted plenty at both United and Real over the seasons. But i disagree with ''to be a complete player you have to be a great creator for others''.

          Both Ronaldo and Bale graduated from being a standard winger where they showed they can assist others to a more free role in the team which allowed them to score many more goals. Just because they assist less than they used to doesn't mean they don't have the talent to assist others anymore, they have found new and more effective roles in their respective teams. Doesn't make them any less complete because they've already shown us what they can do in previous seasons.
          I guess messi isn't a complete player either because he can't really head for **** except vs United Nor can he defend...

          Ronaldo is the most complete player in the world.. that's fact..

          He scores bucketloads..
          Assists alot..
          Takes Free kicks/Pens
          Great threat with his head from open or set plays..
          Amazing with both feet..
          Defends from set pieces..
          Strong as ****
          Wins free kicks
          Gets all the women moist

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            Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
            The problem with a statement like "most of the the time he shoots it seems to go in" is that it simply isn't true. His shot to goal percentage is about 12%.

            He isn't a complete player, nothing like it. All you've done is listed different goalscoring attributes. How many goals did he set up in the league last year? 3? People say the same thing about C.Ronaldo and it's bollocks. To be a 'complete player' you have to also be a great creator for others, which Bale is not. He has no guile, no vision.

            The point people were making was that it isn't about him 'looking impressive', it's when it gets to a point where the strikers suffer where he becomes a problem.

            A 50m+ player he is not.
            He's a direct player, hit and run. He doesn't have the skill to dribble around players like Ronaldo or Messi.

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              Ronaldo has been showing up to big games for the last two years. He's arguably the greatest to ever do it.

              Like he said himself, they hate me cause I'm rich, good looking, and a great player.

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                Bale is a great crosser.

                La Décima will happen with Ronaldo, Bale, and Özil.

                La liga Holy Trinity.

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                  You would have to have just enjoyed a speedball to bid Ł85 million for Bale.

                  I know Casillas said he was in the top 4 players in the world - that's hardly true is it?

                  Top 20? Maybe.

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                    Gareth Bale or Dortmund's Reus?

                    Who is better?

                    Genuine question because statistically at least Reus is better.

                    Bale: 43 goals and 31 assists in 140 odd games.

                    Reus: 51 goals and 36 assists in 118 games.

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                      Originally posted by San Iker View Post
                      I think the votes are already in.

                      But you know it's been fixed and they'll give it to monkey boy bale.
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                      Originally posted by dj Calleti View Post
                      I'll be honest, maybe I've been harsh on Bale in the past.

                      I'll admit he's a pretty good player, not better than Di Maria, but on par with Callejon. Which isn't a bad thing, obviously Callejon gets more pussy than monkey boy but that's a different subject.
                      Originally posted by San Iker View Post
                      Truth.

                      Monkey boy has a decent game vs Wigan at home and everyone is praising him like some sort of ATG.

                      Had to do it brah.

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