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    Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
    Sure thing. Let me know which facts in the article are inaccurate.

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      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      USADA carried out the anti-doping test which under operate under WADA rules.
      USADA was hired, by Floyd & Manny, to do additional testing and regulating beyond what Nevada does.


      Floyd and Manny agreed to abide by these rules.
      Floyd and Manny agreed to whatever they agreed to. Their agreement wasn't made public.


      Floyd breached those rules with the the help of USADA
      That's a lie. USADA grants exemptions all the time, both in advance and after the fact.


      Floyd got an retro-active TUE, which can only been given in cases of a serious medical condition.
      That's a lie. Retroactive TUE can be given for various reasons. Something being medically necessary isn't necessarily "serious." "Serious" is very subjective.


      Floyd had no such condition, so why did USADA allow it?
      You have no idea what Floyd's condition was. Please stop lying.

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        Cheaters never win. That is why Floyd beat manny when they fought.

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          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          USADA was hired, by Floyd & Manny, to do additional testing and regulating beyond what Nevada does.




          Floyd and Manny agreed to whatever they agreed to. Their agreement wasn't made public.




          That's a lie. USADA grants exemptions all the time, both in advance and after the fact.




          That's a lie. Retroactive TUE can be given for various reasons. Something being medically necessary isn't necessarily "serious." "Serious" is very subjective.




          You have no idea what Floyd's condition was. Please stop lying.

          Wrong!!

          9. What is a retroactive TUE?
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          There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively. The evaluation process is identical to the standard TUE application procedure i.e. the TUEC evaluates the application and issues its decision. The ISTUE stipulates which situations may result in the granting of a retroactive TUE, as follows:

          Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary*; or
          Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the athlete to submit, or the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or
          Applicable rules required the athlete or permitted the athlete to apply for a retroactive TUE. This is applicable to Persons who are not International-Level or National-Level athletes (Code Article 4.4.5) and (where the relevant NADO so chooses) to National-Level Athletes in sports specified by the relevant NADO (ISTUE Article 5.1 Comment); or
          [Comment: Such athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out in ISTUE Article 4.1, should an application for a retroactive TUE be necessary following Sample collection.]
          It is agreed, by WADA and by the ADO to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.



          *A medical emergency or acute medical situation occurs when the athlete's medical condition justifies immediate Administration of a Prohibited Substance or Method and failure to treat immediately could significantly put the athlete’s health at risk. It is always preferable to address a TUE application prospectively rather than retrospectively. ADOs granting TUEs should have internal procedures to expedite the evaluation and granting of TUE for emergency situations, whenever possible, and without putting the athlete’s health at risk.


          As you can clearly see, they are zero ground for Floyd to be given an retroactive TUE.

          Floyd was doping and USADA allowed it.

          This is why Floyd demanded USADA do the testing, to allow him to dope.

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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            Cheaters never win. That is why Floyd beat manny when they fought.
            Just like Lance Armstrong.

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              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
              Hauser's article that I've linked is written after the USADA article you cite. Hauser writes about it and also raises lots of legitimate questions about the IV that remain unanswered.

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                Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
                Hauser's article that I've linked is written after the USADA article you cite. Hauser writes about it and also raises lots of legitimate questions about the IV that remain unanswered.

                3. What are the criteria for granting a TUE?
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                The criteria are:

                The athlete would experience significant health problems without taking the prohibited substance or method;
                The the****utic use of the substance would not produce significant enhancement of performance;
                There is no reasonable the****utic alternative to the use of the otherwise prohibited substance or method;
                The requirement to use that substance or method is not due to the prior use of the substance or method without a TUE which was prohibited at the time of use.

                For the TUE to be granted, all four criteria must be met.

                Like these questions.

                What significant health issues would Floyd would have experienced without the help of this illegal IV?


                What was Floyd's medical issue?

                And How did this illegal IV fix it?

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Like these questions.

                  What significant health issues would Floyd would have experienced without the help of this illegal IV?


                  What was Floyd's medical issue?

                  And How did this illegal IV fix it?
                  True
                  Also these questions:
                  Who approved the IV procedure at Floyd's home?
                  Did USADA analyse the IV solution for it's contents?
                  Who made the decision that an IV was necessary (a DCO can't make that decision)?
                  Where is the full paramedic's report of the incident.?
                  Finally if FM was dehydrated why not just drink water which is a safer and more effective treatment for moderate dehydration.

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                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Just like Lance Armstrong.
                    Lance Armstrong would be caught in a hot minute today, you think things dont change when a loop hole is first found, and then on top of what doesnt apply today you paint everyone with the same brush, except Manny and Toradol lol .

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                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Wrong!!
                      Hahahaha you ****ing fool. You didn't even read what you just posted.

                      Ever heard of the word OR!?!?!


                      or
                      Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the athlete to submit, or the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or
                      Applicable rules required the athlete or permitted the athlete to apply for a retroactive TUE

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