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Why do people rate Canelo's resume so high, even relative to GGG's?

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    #51
    Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
    Serious question/thread...just never really understood the hype on Canelo's and hate on GGG's.

    Even without the two GGG-Canelo fights with each other...let's just look at some names:

    Canelo's good wins - Trout (never scored/watched it all), Lara (I had Canelo 7-5), Jacobs (7-5), Smith (good KO), Cotto (shot and at a higher than best weight...but good win), Kirkland (KO), Angulo (KO), Fielding (KO).

    Canelo's OK wins - Lopez, Cintron, Chavez, Mosley, Baldomir, Khan.

    GGG's good wins (besides Jacobs all KOs) - Jacobs (8-4 imo), Murray, Brook, Lemieux, Monroe, Geale, Macklin, Proksa, Ouma, Stevens, Vanes.

    GGG's OK wins (all KOs) - Rosado, Adama, Rubio, Ishida, Rolls.

    GGG has more good wins imo...and more dominant in most of those wins...winning by KO and hardly losing a round...and more OK/Good wins total, almost all by KO...compared to quite a few decisions for Canelo.

    That's without even getting into the 2 Canelo-GGG fights which I felt were pretty straightforward wins for GGG...outlanding Canelo in 18/22 rounds (2 ties)...that's 80+% of the rounds that he was outlanding Canelo...pretty impressive on that for sure.

    So genuinely - what am I missing?

    Edit - not to mention the clear loss Canelo has to Mayweather...but I don't really slight him for that...he was pretty green then and it was not an ideal weight for him.
    Comparing resume's is futile and a waste of energy because it comes down to my opinion vs yours.That said we know Alvarez has been a protected fighter since his first WBC title fight vs Matt Hatton. Which he went on to defend against Rhodes, Gomez, Cintron, a shot Mosely and Joselito Lopez before finally risking a fight against a guy with a pulse.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Htown-Finest View Post
      Hows your girls back. Heard I broke a few ribs by clapping them cheeks

      We good. We got Russell Westbrook lol
      I made a thread in the Thunderdome of Htown’s finest gay club, the LDBC, with its founding sponsor stroking it to a group pic! When Htown talks about the bootyhouse, they ain’t referring to dance music... moreso prison as an All American Past Time!

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        #53
        Originally posted by Greedo's Lawyer View Post
        I made a thread in the Thunderdome of Htown’s finest gay club, the LDBC, with its founding sponsor stroking it to a group pic! When Htown talks about the bootyhouse, they ain’t referring to dance music... moreso prison as an All American Past Time!
        Get lost *****

        If anything your mother got thunderDome to each of her clients. Service never disappoints.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Htown-Finest View Post
          Get lost *****

          If anything your mother got thunderDome to each of her clients. Service never disappoints.
          No seriously the LDBC sponsor Fred Hawthorne is stroking it in this video!!!

          TIMESTAMPED! CLICK TO PLAY!!

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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
            I see what you're saying.

            But for me a win/resume is all about the manner of victory as well...and also when you fought a certain guy...I 100% feel like Canelo facing Mosley or Cotto when he did is not the best version of those guys, and I think some of GGG's wins over those B level guys were just as good as far as the difficulty of the matchup...and GGG was fight in and fight out much more impressive and dominant imo...I just don't really see the quality advantage in Canelo's favor personally...similar resumes in a lot of ways as far as number of quality opponets etc though
            that's definitely part of the discussion, but at the end of the day, strength of resume comes down to quality of wins. canelo having a win over ggg is better than anything on ggg's resume...even if most people thought it was a draw/loss. his recoed still says W vs ggg.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Greedo's Lawyer View Post
              Canelo's cut was bigger!!! GGG won!! lol

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                #57
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                only if you label Vanes as " good "..... and Mosley as " ok "






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                True...some similarities there...Mosley was at a not ideal weight...so was Vanes...Mosley was pretty shot...Vanes was inactive...Mosley was better than Vanes at his peak, that we can probably all agree on...I do think Vanes looked fine in there...I remember watching a lot of him dating back to his Lara fights...and I think the weight increase affected his chances more than the inactivity.

                But I just liked the way in which GGG got rid of Vanes...and Canelo going 12 rounds with Mosley just was unimpressive to me...I have always had Spence around top 5 pfp...not necessarily based on him having tons of top names on his resume...but the guys he did have, he had stopped and done so impressively imo...

                He always seems to excel based on expectations...and GGG always did the same for me as well...Spence's most recent fight with Mikey was a little underwhelming to me since he couldn't get the stoppage...but he still clearly dominated that one.

                All I can say there I guess is if Canelo stopped Vanes in those same circumstances...and GGG went 12 with Mosley in those circumstances...I would rate that win better for Canelo.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Htown-Finest View Post
                  Ever heard of bandwagoners?
                  CaneloMania took over
                  I had GGG winning first fight. 2nd fight Canelo won.

                  This ain’t even about resumes. It’s the GGG-Canelo Rivalry
                  Good post/perspectives...a lot of it with boxing is just very tribal...love it or hate it, it is just the way it is...and having people who passionately support, or even dislike, certain fighters can actually add to the sport I think, and can make the fights fun...a lot of those hardcore fans just bring the action and excitement.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Greedo's Lawyer View Post
                    How’s the LDBC paddy wagon doe? Heard it smells like piss. Htown LDBC all about the bootyhouse bidness cause we gangsta
                    That dude is actually a good poster imo...he is one of the few people on here who keeps it pretty real based on what he sees, from I can tell...I've read quite a few of his posts and never really found anything that over the top or rude...your posts on the other hand

                    Nehequini got suspended I guess ;0 lol

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
                      Porque eres un pendejo maricon hijo de tu puta madre! 😆🤣🖕
                      I understand some of that

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