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    #111
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    Man idk wtf Big Baby was thinking. But him being self destructive to his own career seems a possibility. So its either that or legit thought he was doing something that made all the sh^t he was doing was masked.

    Randomly I heard Eddie on the 3 Knockdown Rule podcast & he said Big Baby sent him some long ass email that Eddie was seeming to me implying that Big Baby was trying to suggest the VADA testing was at fault for some sorta reason. So Big Baby is all over the f#cking place if thats correct. "Someone framing me" to "my bad" to "test is effed up doe". I feel like if what Eddie implied is right thats Big Baby's way of getting back into boxing sooner cuz of how the NY loophole has helped him out & likely avoided him a 1 or 2 year suspension.
    Yea that loophole sucks but they can still decide to make a point here and just not give him license when he applies, and other states can do same.IDK what will happen but its only a matter of time before someone gets hurt and his opponent test dirty after and you will see lawsuits fly.

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      #112
      Originally posted by AdonisCreed View Post
      AJ has more titles so I'll go with that one plus 7 million rather than go for 7 million and only one belt to face a guy who already stopped him before. And besides even if Ortiz lost he could still get the Wilder fight because losing to AJ isn't a career damaging loss. He may not have another shot at AJ again because Usyk may be next in line if he wins.
      You're certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect it. But certainly you can understand a fighter preferring a full 10 week camp to maximize their chance of finally winning a proper world championship instead of a 4 week camp where they'd be going in at a huge disadvantage. Especially if the money is equal.

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        #113
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        You're certainly entitled to your opinion and I respect it. But certainly you can understand a fighter preferring a full 10 week camp to maximize their chance of finally winning a proper world championship instead of a 4 week camp where they'd be going in at a huge disadvantage. Especially if the money is equal.
        Do you think they will offer Ortiz upwards of $6 million for a Wilder rematch after he made 500k for the first one?

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          #114
          Originally posted by Toffee View Post
          $6M ignored, $7M derided as a "lowball".

          And Finkel states on TBV that Joshua-Wilder won't happen this year, maybe 2020.

          There can't be anyone left in doubt now? PBC are ducking fights to protect their fighters and keep things in house. Fury has wedged himself onto ESPN and will fight twice this year against no marks.

          Team Joshua has continually made offers to all of the top fighters. Real credible offers.

          No more doubt.

          PBC wants to be like UFC. How many times does the UFC lend their fighters to Bellator to help Bellator's events?

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            #115
            Originally posted by Ajvar View Post
            7.5M is not a 25% deal if AJ makes 30M. But what did I expect from boxing community, people who know math at least of 1st grade? NAAAAH.
            what is 4 x 7.5 if it isn't 30?

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              #116
              Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
              ...meanwhile wilder fought Ortiz and fury back to back and tried to get immediate rematch with fury!
              Do you even read what you write?? Wilder has had 40 fights and the only decent fighters he beat are Stiverne and Ortiz. And neither of them are top-level fighters.

              His record is far worse than AJs and Wilder has had almost double the fights. Fury was retired for 2 years. Wilder chose him because he saw him as an easy fight...

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                #117
                Did Hearn say why he didn't go back to Ortiz after Jimenez said they were misled by the promoter? Was he just upset over the Instagram post? If so, how is that different from all the other times a fighter has refused to negotiate because of personal feelings towards the potential opponents management?

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                  #118
                  Ortiz lost his greatest opportunity. At his age, I doubt he'll get another title shot, at least with so many good prospects around. If he fights Kownaki, he'll lose almost for sure and his career will be over.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                    This PBC is the devil sh^t is getting old.

                    Andy Ruiz is with PBC. If Haymon has some plan to destroy DAZN or Eddie why would he help save the June 1 show?
                    It's not about saving the show for the good of boxing, it's about keeping a fighter happy.

                    Kownacki and Ortiz already had the Wilder fight dangled in front of them and so ducked AJ.

                    What's Al gonna do? Tell Ruiz he can make him $5m against Wilder in 2021 after Ortiz and Kownacki get their shot? There's no guarantees that money would still be there for him.

                    If Al could of course he would have scuppered Ruiz taking the fight, but he already played all his cards.

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                      #120
                      didn't want an ass kick,

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