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    The problem isn't Americans not supporting their own. The problem is....

    promoters/managers are marketing to the wrong demographic for American fighters. When I say American fighters I'm talking black fighters because all the top American fighters are black.

    Black buying power is expected to reach $1.2 trillion this year, and $1.4 trillion by 2020, according to the University of Georgia’s Selig Center for Economic Growth. That is so much combined spending power that it would make Black America the 15th largest economy in the world in terms of Gross Domestic Product, the size of Mexico based on World Bank data. By comparison, in 1990, Black buying power was $320 billion. As the largest consumer group of color, in a nation that is becoming increasingly darker, this trend will only continue to have its impact on the U.S.
    Promoters do not market to the urban black population. Hip hop and rap have been conjoined since the early days of rap

    My brother's doin' bad, stole my mother's TV
    Says she watches too much, it's just not healthy
    All My Children in the daytime, Dallas at night
    Can't even see the game or the Sugar Ray fight
    The highest rated urban morning radio show, The Breakfast Club, regularly talk boxing. They've had a lot of boxers on the show, including GGG. Co-host Charlamagne The God is a big boxing fan. Not a casual fan either. He talks boxing all the time on Twitter.



    When they show stars in the audience of fights who do you always see? Rappers, black basketball players, and black actors/actresses. Ever been to a Floyd fight in Vegas? What's the main demographic you see? Met a guy who owned 2 stores on the strip in Vegas. He said personally he hates Floyd but when he fights he made a lot of money. He says he stocks up on Ace of Spades, Cristal, Hennessey XO, and other drinks popular in urban areas, marks up the price and can't keep it on the shelf.

    Floyd said Arum didn't know how to market him to the urban audience. He left and we know the rest of the story. Floyd saw the money to be made marketing to the urban audience and he went full "Money Mayweather"



    Every football player thinks they can be a basketball player. Every basketball player thinks they can be a rapper. Every rapper thinks they can be a basketball player. But all three think they got hands and could box.

    Right now I think the Charlos have the highest upside of becoming household names. The next PPV stars. They are talented, handsome, charismatic and culture influencers. If Love & Hip Hop Houston wouldn't have been cancelled before it aired I think they would be a lot bigger than they are now. Thoe Love & Hip Hop shows are some of the highest rated on cable TV.

    That's all imma say. Anything else is giving away the game for free. I know managers and promoters read this board so if they want the blueprint they gotta pay.
    Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 10-26-2017, 08:39 PM.

    #2
    IDK about that. It's white suburban kids from middle class communities who are the biggest demographic for the commercial success of hip hop. You think marketing to 15% of the nation's population is going to launch Crawford or any other black fighter's career?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      promoters/managers are marketing to the wrong demographic for American fighters. When I say American fighters I'm talking black fighters because all the top American fighters are black.

      Promoters do not market to the urban black population. Hip hop and rap have been conjoined since the early days of rap



      The highest rated urban morning radio show, The Breakfast Club, regularly talk boxing. They've had a lot of boxers on the show, including GGG. Co-host Charlamagne The God is a big boxing fan. Not a casual fan either. He talks boxing all the time on Twitter.



      When they show stars in the audience of fights who do you always see? Rappers, black basketball players, and black actors/actresses. Ever been to a Floyd fight in Vegas? What's the main demographic you see? Met a guy who owned 2 stores on the strip in Vegas. He said personally he hates Floyd but when he fights he made a lot of money. He says he stocks up on Ace of Spades, Cristal, Hennessey XO, and other drinks popular in urban areas, marks up the price and can't keep it on the shelf.

      Floyd said Arum didn't know how to market him to the urban audience. He left and we know the rest of the story. Floyd saw the money to be made marketing to the urban audience and he went full "Money Mayweather"



      Every football player thinks they can be a basketball player. Every basketball player thinks they can be a rapper. Every rapper thinks they can be a basketball player. But all three think they got hands and could box.

      Right now I think the Charlos have the highest upside of becoming household names. The next PPV stars. They are talented, handsome, charismatic and culture influencers. If Love & Hip Hop Houston wouldn't have been cancelled before it aired I think they would be a lot bigger than they are now. Thoe Love & Hip Hop shows are some of the highest rated on cable TV.

      That's all imma say. Anything else is giving away the game for free. I know managers and promoters read this board so if they want the blueprint they gotta pay.
      Aren't most of the promoters white? Do they have any brothers on their team, I mean really. Blacks would watch boxing if they knew about boxing.

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        #4
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
        IDK about that. It's white suburban kids from middle class communities who are the biggest demographic for the commercial success of hip hop. You think marketing to 15% of the nation's population is going to launch Crawford or any other black fighter's career?
        True. But only after the black artists have been vetted by the black community. Drake is the perfect example of this.

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          #5
          Idk if it's the right thing to do but to appeal to the white people and Rest of the population I think a black fighter has to be a villain unfortunately. If they get people to hate (which is kinda easy) then more people would wanna see them lose aka More ppv buys

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            #6
            Originally posted by MasterPlan View Post
            Aren't most of the promoters white? Do they have any brothers on their team, I mean really. Blacks would watch boxing if they knew about boxing.
            def a well thought out post. and just because u might start marketing more to the black or urban market don't mean u cant also maket to the so called main stream.really nice post

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              #7
              I'm sry meant quote the 1st guy

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                #8
                It doesn't really make a difference...boxing is a marginal sport. As soon as mma got big, all the casual fight fans moved on...simply cuz mma is closer to what people consider real fighting. What's the point of watching a sport where the best guys would get beat up by novice grapplers.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                  It doesn't really make a difference...boxing is a marginal sport. As soon as mma got big, all the casual fight fans moved on...simply cuz mma is closer to what people consider real fighting. What's the point of watching a sport where the best guys would get beat up by novice grapplers.
                  By your logic nobody would watch soccer then.

                  Nobody wants to see real fighting that's why there are rules in the UFC. You can't even headbutt anybody in the UFC. If the UFC was real no rules hand-to-hand fighting the fights would look a lot different.

                  UFC has a certain audience because it has a different product than boxing that some people find more interesting. It has nothing to do with boxing. If the UFC wasn't around those same people mostly still wouldn't watch boxing.

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                    #10
                    Sportscenter would help. Go to any barbershop in the hood and ESPN is on. But unless it's Mayweather or a fight getting covered by ESPN they don't talk about boxing. That **** really needs to change.

                    If the Charlo's get mentioned on ESPN like Russell Westbrook does than that would be a game changer.

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