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GGG has 1 competitive fight now he is "slipping" yea right more like media overhyping

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    #71
    Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
    Why does everyone bring up porters daddy? Why and how is he relevant at all in any conversation?
    He's a poster, used to be Garcia's Dad and other names, who hates Floyd, is pro Manny/GGG and created the thread about GGG is slipping.

    We aren't talking about Kenny Porter. LMFAO. hahahaha

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      #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      He's a poster, used to be Garcia's Dad and other names, who hates Floyd, is pro Manny/GGG and created the thread about GGG is slipping.

      We aren't talking about Kenny Porter. LMFAO. hahahaha
      Ok, because I've seen porters daddy get brought up when it comes to buttlovekin

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        #73
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        its easy to look like an all time great, when youre an A class fighter, fighting C Level guys with the occasional B thrown in

        of course physically youre not the same as 35 as your are at 25, but come on

        be honest, nobody was saying a thing about his age, slippage or any of that until the man finally had a competitive fight

        he isnt shot, shop worn, hasnt had any wars

        he is a top fighter, but not the machine, the most feared, the killa the media and his fans want you to believe..i've been consistent and saying it a long time...people need to watch full fights of fighters and use their brain and not regurgitate what they hear so much and form their own opinions

        very good fighter but i never saw anything special...thats just me
        I said it after the Brook fight..What level do you think the likes of Macklin, Murray, Lemieux are? you obviously don't think much of them based on what you said above. He doesnt have to be shop worn or in wars to be declining. Only time will tell if its due to a step up of quality of down to him declining. The basis of this whole thread is presumptuous because its based off of one fight.

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          #74
          What we saw out of Lil g his last fight was absolutely no surprise to those of us who never saw him quite as great as some of his fanboys.

          Now, in fairness, we don't know how good Jacobs is going to turn out to be.

          If Danny goes on to be a dominant elite, the close fight with Lil g takes on a certain perspective.

          On the other hand, if Danny turns out to have a good but not great career that too will reflect but in the opposite way.

          But, the signs have been there all along.
          We saw it when Stevens backed him up with a jab.
          We saw it when Willie Monroe was competitive with a bit a movement.
          We saw it when Murray had a few moments.

          We saw those things and knew that whenever Lil g faced a guy with enough skill, and enough heart, and enough chin then that might be the day we saw a less dominant Golovkin.

          That's what happened, not any great change in Lil g.

          The sad part is that Lil g WAS showing some of the signs of an ATG and, had he been matched more competitively 5 years ago, perhaps we might have a much better idea right now where he belongs in history.

          My guess is he will never match his hype...which is OK since most fighters dont.

          But, it really isn't about any slippage; it's about who he is fighting now as opposed to who he fought to make his name.

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            #75
            Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
            I said it after the Brook fight..What level do you think the likes of Macklin, Murray, Lemieux are? you obviously don't think much of them based on what you said above. He doesnt have to be shop worn or in wars to be declining. Only time will tell if its due to a step up of quality of down to him declining. The basis of this whole thread is presumptuous because its based off of one fight.

            A level fighters fighting C level guys make them look like "monsters"

            has he been in wars....no

            has he fought many top fighters....no

            its more about quality of opponent than AGE bro....come on


            its based off his ENTIRE CAREER....HE HAS NOT FOUGHT FIGHTERS ON JACOBS level often enough or better than jacobs

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              #76
              Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
              What we saw out of Lil g his last fight was absolutely no surprise to those of us who never saw him quite as great as some of his fanboys.

              Now, in fairness, we don't know how good Jacobs is going to turn out to be.

              If Danny goes on to be a dominant elite, the close fight with Lil g takes on a certain perspective.

              On the other hand, if Danny turns out to have a good but not great career that too will reflect but in the opposite way.

              But, the signs have been there all along.
              We saw it when Stevens backed him up with a jab.
              We saw it when Willie Monroe was competitive with a bit a movement.
              We saw it when Murray had a few moments.

              We saw those things and knew that whenever Lil g faced a guy with enough skill, and enough heart, and enough chin then that might be the day we saw a less dominant Golovkin.

              That's what happened, not any great change in Lil g.

              The sad part is that Lil g WAS showing some of the signs of an ATG and, had he been matched more competitively 5 years ago, perhaps we might have a much better idea right now where he belongs in history.

              My guess is he will never match his hype...which is OK since most fighters dont.

              But, it really isn't about any slippage; it's about who he is fighting now as opposed to who he fought to make his name.
              you summed it up

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                #77
                but when ggg vs canelo talks was going on werent you guys saying ggg should just accept what canelo is offering to him because he is not getting any younger?? LOL!! i even seen post making fun of ggg saying next year ggg will be 36 so he better accept the offer now.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  A level fighters fighting C level guys make them look like "monsters"

                  has he been in wars....no

                  has he fought many top fighters....no

                  its more about quality of opponent than AGE bro....come on



                  its based off his ENTIRE CAREER....HE HAS NOT FOUGHT FIGHTERS ON JACOBS level often enough or better than jacobs
                  Again you're making wild speculation with little proof to back you're claim up. Prior to the fight most people thought GGG would walk through Jacobs, many on here said someone like Lemieux would walk through Jacobs. GGG won but he struggled and that wasn't entirely to do with Jacobs

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
                    Again you're making wild speculation with little proof to back you're claim up. Prior to the fight most people thought GGG would walk through Jacobs, many on here said someone like Lemieux would walk through Jacobs. GGG won but he struggled and that wasn't entirely to do with Jacobs
                    Blah blah blah
                    Ive been consistent dude is simply overrated

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      GGG is a very good boxer, no doubt. That said he has amassed his record and accomplishments against opponents that have been past it or are simply average or slightly above average.
                      This is the stuff I have problems with with many reasonable cats on NSB. Its the ain't done sh^t defense that you can basically use on anyone in boxing today cuz resume smashing is an art that's easily attainable by even the dummies of NSB.

                      And there is levels to the you ain't done sh^t angle that you can use on anyone.

                      When you first start to fight you legit fight ain't sh^t opponents most of the time.

                      Then you move up & maybe fight some journeymen ain't sh^t guys.

                      Then you get into contender status & then those guys ain't sh^t.

                      Then you win a title, but you won it from some ain't sh^t title holder.

                      Then you defend it against some ain't sh^t contenders.

                      No one in boxing is fighting non-ain't sh^t guys when you have this sorta stance about how the sport works. I mean ALL THE GUYS ON TIP TOP like GGG is have fought a bunch of non-ain't sh^t guys to get where they got if we are being reasonable & not emotional cuz of something some dummy said hyping this guy or hating some other guy, but everyone keeps moving the ain't sh^t goal posts further & further up the ladder til there is like one cat who's the only guy who's non-ain't sh^t in a division & sometimes that's even a title that's retroactively taken away if he didn't perform well enough in the fight. Its all kinda f#cking dumb & sh^ts on the accomplishments of the best guys in the sport regardless if you are for or against any particular guy.

                      The 1st time he stepped up in comp, and by no means is Jacobs a top tier A level boxer
                      And see this is it right here. Jacobs is the 2nd or 3rd best guy at 160 (depending on if you count Canelo or not & I can see you or anyone else going either way with that), but somehow he's not "a top tier A level boxer".

                      If the 2nd or 3rd best guy in a division isn't a A level guy who is in most divisions? The boxing fan grading curve is f#cking ******ed. Some of you guys have the 9th best guy in the world as a D level boxer I'd bet.

                      Obviously, given how much they like him and the abhorrent racial atmosphere on NSB right now, they are not going to entertain that he might not be as good as they think.
                      Those are all troll threads officially or unofficially. You'd do yourself more justice by acting accordingly instead of debating with those dummies. And if you, if you do cuz idk if you do or not, & others quit interacting with the dummies so much they'd probably quiet down, but of course when so many people engage the dummies the dummies become more bold & active so there are 20 dumb racial threads going on any given day.

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