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GGG has 1 competitive fight now he is "slipping" yea right more like media overhyping

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    #81
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    Blah blah blah
    Ive been consistent dude is simply overrated
    No all you have done is give one example to try and prove you're point, myself and many other have said it's too early to tell if you're point is valid or not but you have continued to claim you are right. All you're doing is acting petulant. BTW you still haven't answered the question I gave you in an earlier post.

    What you did say is that GGG hasn't fought opponents of Jacobs level often enough, meaning he has (in you're eyes) fought opponents of Jacobs quality before, so if it was simply to do with levels of quality then surely he would have struggled with those opponents also right? Please tell me which other fighters you believe he has struggled with?

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      #82
      The real poo-galist.

      That's you, that's your name now.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Dr Kewl Hair View Post
        The real poo-galist.

        That's you, that's your name now.
        Awww....him mad

        Go get a hand job from one of your ****** friends


        Ive been saying it for years.... Fight better comp. N we truly know how good he is
        ...knocking out c level opposition won't do it...cry me a river fan boy

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          #84
          Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
          No all you have done is give one example to try and prove you're point, myself and many other have said it's too early to tell if you're point is valid or not but you have continued to claim you are right. All you're doing is acting petulant. BTW you still haven't answered the question I gave you in an earlier post.

          What you did say is that GGG hasn't fought opponents of Jacobs level often enough, meaning he has (in you're eyes) fought opponents of Jacobs quality before, so if it was simply to do with levels of quality then surely he would have struggled with those opponents also right? Please tell me which other fighters you believe he has struggled with?
          Meaning top five middleweights

          He is suppose to be a PFP entrant... Never moved up in weight... Only beat a handful of champs n only 3 top guys in his division.... Its pathetic considering how hyped he was/is with his thin accomplishments

          Geale was but was clearly past it and cotto finished him off

          Lemmy was around 5 or 6 that's it...and that's suppose to prove you ate top 5 PFP bwahahaha

          His resume looks like crap beside guys like ward, kov, choco

          Even Thurman who is younger with less fights has taken more risks


          Whether u like it or not you know its true
          Last edited by therealpugilist; 04-28-2017, 10:20 AM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
            This is the stuff I have problems with with many reasonable cats on NSB. Its the ain't done sh^t defense that you can basically use on anyone in boxing today cuz resume smashing is an art that's easily attainable by even the dummies of NSB.

            And there is levels to the you ain't done sh^t angle that you can use on anyone.

            When you first start to fight you legit fight ain't sh^t opponents most of the time.

            Then you move up & maybe fight some journeymen ain't sh^t guys.

            Then you get into contender status & then those guys ain't sh^t.

            Then you win a title, but you won it from some ain't sh^t title holder.

            Then you defend it against some ain't sh^t contenders.

            No one in boxing is fighting non-ain't sh^t guys when you have this sorta stance about how the sport works. I mean ALL THE GUYS ON TIP TOP like GGG is have fought a bunch of non-ain't sh^t guys to get where they got if we are being reasonable & not emotional cuz of something some dummy said hyping this guy or hating some other guy, but everyone keeps moving the ain't sh^t goal posts further & further up the ladder til there is like one cat who's the only guy who's non-ain't sh^t in a division & sometimes that's even a title that's retroactively taken away if he didn't perform well enough in the fight. Its all kinda f#cking dumb & sh^ts on the accomplishments of the best guys in the sport regardless if you are for or against any particular guy.



            And see this is it right here. Jacobs is the 2nd or 3rd best guy at 160 (depending on if you count Canelo or not & I can see you or anyone else going either way with that), but somehow he's not "a top tier A level boxer".

            If the 2nd or 3rd best guy in a division isn't a A level guy who is in most divisions? The boxing fan grading curve is f#cking ******ed. Some of you guys have the 9th best guy in the world as a D level boxer I'd bet.



            Those are all troll threads officially or unofficially. You'd do yourself more justice by acting accordingly instead of debating with those dummies. And if you, if you do cuz idk if you do or not, & others quit interacting with the dummies so much they'd probably quiet down, but of course when so many people engage the dummies the dummies become more bold & active so there are 20 dumb racial threads going on any given day.
            You left out the bulk of my post which adds context to the parts you quoted. Its unfair to use others shortcomings as a way to frame my post.

            you are vastly oversimplifying my point. I am not denigrating his resume just to do so. Maybe I need to word it differently. GGG has amassed his record over a resume of men that were huge underdogs. Jacobs, the best guy he ever fought, was still an 8-1 underdog which is about the closest the odds have been.

            The fact that he didn't perform as expected is not an indication of slippage as much as it is another reminder of what happens histroically in this sport when you fight an opponent that is more highly regarded than the other men you have fought previously.

            In the poll I voted him B/B+, which is where most of the votes were. SO my saying he isn't an A level opponet reflects that. It wasn't just thrown out there as you imply. I will reword it again-Jacobs has never been considered a top p4p boxer nor has he ever been mentioned with the elites of the sport, despite having a very good record.

            Regarding this-Jacobs being a b/b+ fighter and having a close fight with GGG is indicative of GGG being the same level of fighter and not the A/A+ level some suggest rather than it is indicative of slippage, given what I posted in the last post.

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              #86
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
              I said it after the Brook fight..What level do you think the likes of Macklin, Murray, Lemieux are? you obviously don't think much of them based on what you said above. He doesnt have to be shop worn or in wars to be declining. Only time will tell if its due to a step up of quality of down to him declining. The basis of this whole thread is presumptuous because its based off of one fight.
              We won't know, because his quality of opposition didn't go up until fight WW brook

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                #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                You left out the bulk of my post which adds context to the parts you quoted. Its unfair to use others shortcomings as a way to frame my post.

                you are vastly oversimplifying my point. I am not denigrating his resume just to do so. Maybe I need to word it differently. GGG has amassed his record over a resume of men that were huge underdogs. Jacobs, the best guy he ever fought, was still an 8-1 underdog which is about the closest the odds have been.

                The fact that he didn't perform as expected is not an indication of slippage as much as it is another reminder of what happens histroically in this sport when you fight an opponent that is more highly regarded than the other men you have fought previously.

                In the poll I voted him B/B+, which is where most of the votes were. SO my saying he isn't an A level opponet reflects that. It wasn't just thrown out there as you imply. I will reword it again-Jacobs has never been considered a top p4p boxer nor has he ever been mentioned with the elites of the sport, despite having a very good record.

                Regarding this-Jacobs being a b/b+ fighter and having a close fight with GGG is indicative of GGG being the same level of fighter and not the A/A+ level some suggest rather than it is indicative of slippage, given what I posted in the last post.
                great post but to some, logic n context equals hate lol

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  Awww....him mad

                  Go get a hand job from one of your ****** friends


                  Ive been saying it for years.... Fight better comp. N we truly know how good he is
                  ...knocking out c level opposition won't do it...cry me a river fan boy
                  I'm not bov'd about GGG, he should've fought better comp and missed his chance for greatness. Bit embarrassing really.

                  I'm actually just having fun at the expense of your constant crying Poogalist

                  💩💩💩💩💩

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    You left out the bulk of my post which adds context to the parts you quoted. Its unfair to use others shortcomings as a way to frame my post.

                    you are vastly oversimplifying my point. I am not denigrating his resume just to do so. Maybe I need to word it differently. GGG has amassed his record over a resume of men that were huge underdogs. Jacobs, the best guy he ever fought, was still an 8-1 underdog which is about the closest the odds have been.

                    The fact that he didn't perform as expected is not an indication of slippage as much as it is another reminder of what happens histroically in this sport when you fight an opponent that is more highly regarded than the other men you have fought previously.

                    In the poll I voted him B/B+, which is where most of the votes were. SO my saying he isn't an A level opponet reflects that. It wasn't just thrown out there as you imply. I will reword it again-Jacobs has never been considered a top p4p boxer nor has he ever been mentioned with the elites of the sport, despite having a very good record.

                    Regarding this-Jacobs being a b/b+ fighter and having a close fight with GGG is indicative of GGG being the same level of fighter and not the A/A+ level some suggest rather than it is indicative of slippage, given what I posted in the last post.
                    Good post. I also have said that golovkin is a B level fighter at best for a long time. Let's also not forget his loss toward the end of his amateur career was vs Dirrell, who imo is also a B level fighter...golovkin also did beat him, but as you pointed out, the fact remains that the bar was set for golovkin at that point of losing, which is why the mw division was PERFECT for him because it was lacking real talent at that time. There's a very simple and obvious reason they wanted no part of ward, golovkin fans just choose to ignore those reasons and try to make up non existent reasons in an attempt to counter it.

                    I'll add that while many attempt to pick holes in Mayweathers resume, they have to reach for anything...golovkins is right in front of them.
                    Last edited by Metho_4u; 04-28-2017, 10:32 AM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                      Not in the slightest...i bet your one of those guys who thinks ward "schooled" kovalev, aren't you?
                      I think he beat Kovalev, but I wouldn't go as far as using the term 'schooled'.

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