Comments Thread For: Wilder: Would've Been '******' to Face a 'Killer' in This Fight

[SUBZER0ED]

"Only a crazy man would come back, not knowing what the result’s gonna be with the hand, and try to fight a killer up in the ring." Please, Deontay, name ONE killer you have EVER faced. Second, the broken hand issue is nothing new. He has titanium steel rods in his right hand, because he has broken it before. He will continue to have problems with the hand, because he's a tall, slender guy. Logic dictates that a guy with his natural slender frame will have small, slender bones, especially at extremities like the hands. This reason alone will prevent him from unifying, even if he does grow a pair and actually tries it.

[KillaCamNZ]

Guys move at different rates, Wilder coming out of the Oylmpics was extremely raw, he really wasn't even a pro prospect until his 20th or so fight. Joshua is more polished coming in, that is all that says.

To me they fought Gavern at the exact same time Joshua in his 11th fight was a pro prospect in his 11th fight, Wilder had 20 apprentice ship fights honing his skills in the gym, then got moves to prospect status fighting Gavern in his 12th fight of that phase.

You are making a lot out of something that is essentially meaningless~

That's essentially the point - Wilder is 37 fights deep into his pro career, and still nowhere near where a champion should be. If that's purely a representation of his growth, then his growth is glacial - and he still hasn't shown the fruits of his slow-burn growth.

It's not like Joshua has a heap more experience under his belt - Joshua had 43 amateur fights, whereas Wilder had 35. Joshua was 18 when he started boxing, 19 for Wilder.

It's fine - totally fine - if people want to say he's unrefined, a slow learner or whatever - as long as the reality of him having one of the most hollow records for a Champ, in history, is also accepted.

My beef is with someone carrying around one of the most prestigious belts in the game, having done jack to show he's worth it. And then, those arguing against the shallowness of his pro career.

[original zero]

You are a complete waste of time, you have no logic and I simply cant bother with you anymore. Do not bother with a response as it will not be read. Everyone knows you spew nothing but nonsense. Enjoy living in complete denial. Later.

Logic is actually my specialty, which is why you're trying to hard to exit the discussion. My positions are making you uncomfortable, but you can't counter them, because my logic is sound.

[original zero]

I have never seen someone talk as much insanity as that guy.

Im torn between laughing and blanking out at his comparison between creating sport for women, and saying that divisions lower than heavy are created because people who arent heavyweight arent as good and its to give them a chance at something.

What an absolute beta cuck. LOL

Yet you can't counter my position, because deep down you know it's true. Anything lower than heavyweight is the equivalent of the WNBA or little league world series. The "best" of an arbitrary restricted talent pool.

The best boxer under a certain weight is no different than the best basketball player under a certain height or the best tennis player who doesn't have testicles.

The top heavyweight is the top boxer. The top welterweight is like the 1,400th best boxer. There's no comparison.

[Lopez_Boxing]

for his last ten fights the same thing is said.....I will give him a pass for this one but he better fight a good fighter next

I am absolutely with you. He has, for once, a valid excuse (minus the povetkin incident I guess) to fight a bum since capturing the belt. I feel when you have a belt you are obligated to only fight people who have a chance to be champion. People who earned the right to contend.

[yammy25]

Yet you can't counter my position, because deep down you know it's true. Anything lower than heavyweight is the equivalent of the WNBA or little league world series. The "best" of an arbitrary restricted talent pool.

The best boxer under a certain weight is no different than the best basketball player under a certain height or the best tennis player who doesn't have testicles.

The top heavyweight is the top boxer. The top welterweight is like the 1,400th best boxer. There's no comparison.

You are actually stating that Deontay Wilder, or Anthony Joshua is a better boxer than Floyd mayweather, lomachenko , Hopkins, roy jones junior.

You have officially just made yourself look an absolute tit.

[original zero]

You are actually stating that Deontay Wilder, or Anthony Joshua is a better boxer than Floyd mayweather, lomachenko , Hopkins, roy jones junior.

If Anthony Joshua was fighting Lomachenko, who would you bet your money on? Obviously Joshua is the better boxer.

Boxing is a business. Weight classes were created so the boxing business could have more "world championship" fights and as a marketing gimmick to trick the public into caring about who the 1,400th best fighter in the world was.

Once the gun was invented, who the best boxer was became completely irrelevant. Boxing exists as entertainment. To suck as much money out of the public as possible.

I'm not saying fans shouldn't enjoy the lower weight classes. Fans should enjoy whatever they enjoy. But that doesn't change who the best boxers are. The heavyweights are the best boxers. They are the ones that would beat the other boxers.

[M Bison]

When you've fought nearly 40 people with no real stand out name, I don't think you can be deciding who you should and shouldn't fight.

The fact Anthony Joshua in less than 20 fights has outshone Wilders entire career, It just looks very bad for Wilder, to hear Wilder trying to make excuses for not fighting a guy who he deems a killer/good it's nothing short of embarrassing.

[M Bison]

If Anthony Joshua was fighting Lomachenko, who would you bet your money on? Obviously Joshua is the better boxer.

Boxing is a business. Weight classes were created so the boxing business could have more "world championship" fights and as a marketing gimmick to trick the public into caring about who the 1,400th best fighter in the world was.

Once the gun was invented, who the best boxer was became completely irrelevant. Boxing exists as entertainment. To suck as much money out of the public as possible.

I'm not saying fans shouldn't enjoy the lower weight classes. Fans should enjoy whatever they enjoy. But that doesn't change who the best boxers are. The heavyweights are the best boxers. They are the ones that would beat the other boxers.

Yes on size, but not on skill level.

[jonnyc420]

I have never seen someone talk as much insanity as that guy.

Im torn between laughing and blanking out at his comparison between creating sport for women, and saying that divisions lower than heavy are created because people who arent heavyweight arent as good and its to give them a chance at something.

What an absolute beta cuck. LOL

Yeah, I couldn't deal with him no more. Never met someone who thinks they understand the sport so well but proves to be a total moron instead. Kinda feel bad for him but at the same time could not stop laughing at his posts. Lol