Comments Thread For: Wilder: Would've Been '******' to Face a 'Killer' in This Fight

[jonnyc420]

Women's tennis often has higher ratings than men's tennis. That doesn't change the fact that the best players are on the men's tour.




Stiverne was TBRB #3 in the world when Wilder completely dominated him. AJ hasn't faced anybody close to that. A win over Klitschko would be considered more impressive and I have no problem with that, although Klitschko looked terrible in his last fight and has had such a long lay off that he's currently unranked.

AJ has not defended against a top contender either. AJ and Wilder have defended against a similar level of opposition. Guys ranked in their orgs that are available. But nobody is bashing AJ. Because he's scheduled to face Klitschko.

What happens if Klitschko fails a doping test though and the fight is canceled? Does that mean everybody will bash AJ? No. But they bash Wilder because he's with Haymon.

#DoubleStandard

And it's no secret Wilder is deep in negotiations to unify with Parker this Summer. The idea that Wilder is ducking anybody is just so ****ing ******.

We're not talking about womens sports, we're talking boxing. Whether you like it or not Welterweight is the top division in the sport. If you deny that you have to be a moron. Highest grossing fight in the sport was at WW and it is not even close. When was the last time the HW division had a PPV fight? When was the last time it even cracked 1 mil buys? Who is considered the best fighter of last 20 years? A WW. Now lets talk the ducking part for Wilder, Luis Ortiz was ready to go, avoided that for a football player turned boxer no doubt way below Ortiz in the rankings. Stiverne is basically the same level as Dylan White who AJ KO'd. Since beating Stiverne what has Wilder done? Common opponet Molina AJ dominated in way better fashion. Stop living in denial you are looking dumber with each post.

[yammy25]

Guys move at different rates, Wilder coming out of the Oylmpics was extremely raw, he really wasn't even a pro prospect until his 20th or so fight. Joshua is more polished coming in, that is all that says.

To me they fought Gavern at the exact same time Joshua in his 11th fight was a pro prospect in his 11th fight, Wilder had 20 apprentice ship fights honing his skills in the gym, then got moves to prospect status fighting Gavern in his 12th fight of that phase.

You are making a lot out of something that is essentially meaningless~

you wilder fans just do not quit.. some of the excuses are amazing. Prospect fight? He fought Malik Scott the fight before this?!? One of the opponents wilder fans cant stop bringing up about being a leftover for the other top HW's lol.

Wilder had no right facing a man of gaverns standing in his 32nd fight after "making the step up" of Malik scuba scott.. its a disgrace.

[The Gambler1981]

you wilder fans just do not quit.. some of the excuses are amazing. Prospect fight? He fought Malik Scott the fight before this?!? One of the opponents wilder fans cant stop bringing up about being a leftover for the other top HW's lol.

Wilder had no right facing a man of gaverns standing in his 32nd fight after "making the step up" of Malik scuba scott.. its a disgrace.

Wilder was not some can't miss prospect and they moved him properly. Guys fight scrubby guys all the time he was not champion yet so it is just one meaningless fight in his development that you are making a big deal out of for some unknown reason.

Joshua got moved faster than Wilder that really doesn't mean anything about who is better just one guy had more work to do. Wlad was fighting scrubby guys into his 30 something fights and he was a gold medalist polished guy, did he suck too?

Does Wilder have to fight the top guys if he wants to be considered as the top guy in the division? Yea he does, but your argument is meaningless and shows a lack of understanding of both Wilder's situation and how prospects who need time should be moved.

[yammy25]

Wilder was not some can't miss prospect and they moved him properly. Guys fight scrubby guys all the time he was not champion yet so it is just one meaningless fight in his development that you are making a big deal out of for some unknown reason.

Joshua got moved faster than Wilder that really doesn't mean anything about who is better just one guy had more work to do. Wlad was fighting scrubby guys into his 30 something fights and he was a gold medalist polished guy, did he suck too?

Does Wilder have to fight the top guys if he wants to be considered as the top guy in the division? Yea he does, but your argument is meaningless and shows a lack of understanding of both Wilder's situation and how prospects who need time should be moved.

He was an olympic medallist, he was massively protected in his first 30 fights.. a 30 fight protection is a joke and the very definition of a padded record.

It was the fight before Stiverne.. a fight against Jason Gavern is not a tune up fight, its a padding travesty. The final fight before your title belt is no longer development. Theres a tune up fight, and then theres such a free and easy money win you may aswell not bother.

Having more work to do does not even factor when Wilder jumped an insane amount of ranks from a bum fight for a final eliminator. He never worked his way up WBC rankings. He fled his spot in the WBA and WBO rankings to avoid klitschko.

Wlad went the routes of international titles, EBU titles etc in an age when thats how you progressed. Deontay only ever fought for the WBC continental americas title, a regional joke belt.

If the WBC continental americas title is not a joke belt, then wilder fans will have no problem admitting that its current holder, Dominic Breazeale was good enough to be Anthony Joshuas 17th opponent.

[The Gambler1981]

He was an olympic medallist, he was massively protected in his first 30 fights.. a 30 fight protection is a joke and the very definition of a padded record.

It was the fight before Stiverne.. a fight against Jason Gavern is not a tune up fight, its a padding travesty. The final fight before your title belt is no longer development. Theres a tune up fight, and then theres such a free and easy money win you may aswell not bother.

Having more work to do does not even factor when Wilder jumped an insane amount of ranks from a bum fight for a final eliminator. He never worked his way up WBC rankings. He fled his spot in the WBA and WBO rankings to avoid klitschko.

Wlad went the routes of international titles, EBU titles etc in an age when thats how you progressed. Deontay only ever fought for the WBC continental americas title, a regional joke belt.

If the WBC continental americas title is not a joke belt, then wilder fans will have no problem admitting that its current holder, Dominic Breazeale was good enough to be Anthony Joshuas 17th opponent.

Anyone with eyes knew what kind of prospect he was, and he was a guy that had potential but was a guy that needed time in the gym and in the ring against anyone.

It was just a fight to keep him busy and get him some more rounds, training and confidence. Seeing as Wilder has improved they took the right course with him. He wasn't lazy he didn't waste his time he actually put it to work to develop into something better than he started.

Totally opinion and guys get rated all the time like that.

Being awfully forgiving of Wlad, guys moved quicker both before and after. Should have just kept your opinion solid on both would be a better look rather than making excuses for Wlad.

Once again use your eyes, Breazeale is a total stiff I have watched him fight that has always been my opinion of him. I have no major issue with Joshua taking that fight but it means nothing because I judge with my eyes not letting other dictate to me.

[original zero]

We're not talking about womens sports, we're talking boxing. Whether you like it or not Welterweight is the top division in the sport. If you deny that you have to be a moron. Highest grossing fight in the sport was at WW and it is not even close. When was the last time the HW division had a PPV fight? When was the last time it even cracked 1 mil buys? Who is considered the best fighter of last 20 years? A WW.

But weight divisions and women's sports are the same thing. Just like the little league world series or the special olympics. Creating an artificial separation so people who aren't the best can still have a chance. It'd be the same thing as starting a basketball league for people 6 feet and under.

Heavyweight is the top division. That is where the top fighters are. The best welterweight in the world might be the 1,398th best boxer on the planet. It's just a marketing gimmick to get the public to care about people who aren't anywhere close to being the best at their sport.

Now lets talk the ducking part for Wilder, Luis Ortiz was ready to go, avoided that for a football player turned boxer no doubt way below Ortiz in the rankings. Stiverne is basically the same level as Dylan White who AJ KO'd. Since beating Stiverne what has Wilder done? Common opponet Molina AJ dominated in way better fashion. Stop living in denial you are looking dumber with each post.

Luis Ortiz was never going to accept the fight for the money that was available on FOX. Luis being "ready to go" was just a publicity stunt to fool people like you that don't know **** about boxing.

Stiverne was #3 TBRB when Wilder beat him. Whyte was unranked TBRB when AJ beat him and #42 IBO. There's no comparison. The world's leading experts say you are wrong.

Wilder beat Molina first. Knocking him out quicker after he's already been softened up is irrelevant.

Johan Duhaupas was just in the TBRB top ten for six consecutive months. He is not a bum at all.

[jonnyc420]

But weight divisions and women's sports are the same thing. Just like the little league world series or the special olympics. Creating an artificial separation so people who aren't the best can still have a chance. It'd be the same thing as starting a basketball league for people 6 feet and under.

Heavyweight is the top division. That is where the top fighters are. The best welterweight in the world might be the 1,398th best boxer on the planet. It's just a marketing gimmick to get the public to care about people who aren't anywhere close to being the best at their sport.




Luis Ortiz was never going to accept the fight for the money that was available on FOX. Luis being "ready to go" was just a publicity stunt to fool people like you that don't know **** about boxing.

Stiverne was #3 TBRB when Wilder beat him. Whyte was unranked TBRB when AJ beat him and #42 IBO. There's no comparison. The world's leading experts say you are wrong.

Wilder beat Molina first. Knocking him out quicker after he's already been softened up is irrelevant.

Johan Duhaupas was just in the TBRB top ten for six consecutive months. He is not a bum at all.

You are a complete waste of time, you have no logic and I simply cant bother with you anymore. Do not bother with a response as it will not be read. Everyone knows you spew nothing but nonsense. Enjoy living in complete denial. Later.

[yammy25]

You are a complete waste of time, you have no logic and I simply cant bother with you anymore. Do not bother with a response as it will not be read. Everyone knows you spew nothing but nonsense. Enjoy living in complete denial. Later.

I have never seen someone talk as much insanity as that guy.

Im torn between laughing and blanking out at his comparison between creating sport for women, and saying that divisions lower than heavy are created because people who arent heavyweight arent as good and its to give them a chance at something.

What an absolute beta cuck. LOL

[nacho daddy]

He has a point, but we will expect more after this my man.


IG: Lopez_Boxing

for his last ten fights the same thing is said.....I will give him a pass for this one but he better fight a good fighter next

[joe strong]

He was going to fight Povetkin but that guy couldn't pass a drug test. I got no problems with the voluntaries against Spzilka & Duhaupas. Arreola was a fill in for Povetkin. Molina was not the best choice but he was ranked by both the IBF & WBC when he got title shots at Wilder & Joshua. Molina had collected the NABF belt after wins over Grano & Davarryl Williamson. When he beat Adamek he won the IBF Intercontinental title & got a top ranking as well. That was Don King getting Molina meaningful fights with regional belts on the line that gave him a good ranking which put him in position for a voluntary fight. This is how good promoters get their guys title fights. Just like when King got Stiverne 3 regional belts when he beat Kertson Manswell. He was then in position to fight in eliminators & eventually in a title fight. Manuel Charr had like 3 or 4 WBC regional belts & got a shot at Vitali...