Where do you rank Wlad in the top 5 heavyweights of all time?

[Beercules]

[cupocity303]

Wlad Klitschko can still add on to his legacy, IF he wins the rematch. None of his wins til retirement mattered as long as he was winning. Now that he has to claw his way back up, it's interesting. He didn't get KO'd as in his other loses either.

Beating Fury in a rematch, and going on to unify with Wilder, while defending his undisputed strap one last time agains Anthony Joshua in a retirement fight at age 40, would move him up the ATG ranks some more.

Easier said then done.

[billeau2]

well to be fare what was Ali doing at 39?

not begrudging a society that took the best years of his career away.

[dr.french]

Any fighter that can get inside of Klitschko's jab wrecks him, without much doubt in my mind.

Klitschko(6'6 245lbs, 81" reach) would have no idea what to do with Joe Louis (6'2 210lbs, 76" reach) or Larry Holmes (6'3 220lbs, 81" reach); Ali's lack of a real inside game would leave his chances, in a straight-up fight, down to how effectively he can use his feet/quickness to try and control the fight behind his shorter jab.

Klitschko's resume (just short of 20 years) is a pretty obvious one; Tyson Fury fight aside (I think age is finally catching up to Klitschko), the fights that he looked ho-hum in lay out a pattern.

Jennings, Povetkin, Peter I, the two KO losses, etc (admittedly having not watched every Wladimir fight, I'm simply commenting on the ones I've seen), if you make Klistchko fight, he falls apart.

Holmes and Frazier would be destroyed within 6 by Wlad.

Wlad has fought ferocious opponents for a decade at this same size. Opponents just as good as those two. But guess what? Someone like Holmes and Frazier are far too small. Wlad would jab and lean on them.

And then massive left hook or right hand and its over. It wouldn't even be competitive.

[billeau2]

I thought he still landed some flush clinches against Fury.

[!! Anorak]

Holmes and Frazier would be destroyed within 6 by Wlad.

Wlad has fought ferocious opponents for a decade at this same size. Opponents just as good as those two. But guess what? Someone like Holmes and Frazier are far too small. Wlad would jab and lean on them.

And then massive left hook or right hand and its over. It wouldn't even be competitive.

[dr.french]

Wouldn't even be close. Louis and Frazier are midgets compared to Wlad. They'd be fighting basically two division below. Wlad would annihilate them.

Wlad has destroyed plenty of fighters with same size and skill of Frazier and Louis. Those fighters only looked good when HWs where there own size. Now? You'd have to be an idiot not to realize the giant sized era of HWs is a different one, that is dominated by giants.

Only a fool would argue against simple physics and maths. The bigger fighters win. Period.

[No Tomorrow]

Big Daddy Bowe would have destroyed Wlad.

The absence of Wlad's inside game would kill him against past greats.

[oscar9992]

Wladimir Klitschko. Defeat yourselfe!

Wladimir Klitschko. Defeat yourselfe!

[!! Anorak]

Wouldn't even be close. Louis and Frazier are midgets compared to Wlad. They'd be fighting basically two division below. Wlad would annihilate them.

Wlad has destroyed plenty of fighters with same size and skill of Frazier and Louis. Those fighters only looked good when HWs where there own size. Now? You'd have to be an idiot not to realize the giant sized era of HWs is a different one, that is dominated by giants.

Only a fool would argue against simple physics and maths. The bigger fighters win. Period.