Where do you rank Wlad in the top 5 heavyweights of all time?

[Mike Haynes]

Wlad, Ward, Mayweather.... all average fighters but mastered the art of being allowed to hold.

[M Bison]

At 39yo Muhammad Ali was beaten from pillar to post by his former sparring partner, Wladimir never got that type of beating infact he never got a beating at all the only damage he suffered was from headbutts he just simply didn't come out in the right tactic he showed from 11 and 12 that he clearly could have beat Fury but didn't fight with the right plan from round 1 to 10.

[!! Anorak]

To be fair, Ali had Parkinson's then.

Mind you, at least if Wlad had Parkinson's he'd have moved a bit.

[!! Anorak]

Is the Batty Gypo getting much press in your country? He hasn't been out of the UK headlines since he won... though not for good reasons.

[Ray Corso]

I forget where Wlad is on my heavyweight ranking. I think he's at #51.
Which is very good for a one dimensional talent in an extremely weak era.

Ray

[!! Anorak]

I forget where Wlad is on my heavyweight ranking. I think he's at #51.
Which is very good for a one dimensional talent in an extremely weak era.

Ray

The Kliteratti would have you believe this was a deep division with an ATG at the top who just got old overnight.

I always liken Wlad's reign to going on a fuckspree in the back of a special bus... you get off, having shagged 20 people with down syndrome, then go "that proves I must be Casanova - you can't argue with numbers."

[!! Anorak]

Any fresh word on the rematch?

[crold1]

To be fair, Ali had Parkinson's then.

Mind you, at least if Wlad had Parkinson's he'd have moved a bit.

Fighting guys like Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Norton has a way of making you an older 39.

[!! Anorak]

Fighting guys like Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, Norton has a way of making you an older 39.

True, but Wlad also faced a murderer's row of Leapai, Wach, Pianeta and Brock.