Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: Ward Looking Less and Less Likely

[The Big Dunn]

Of course it was about money. Isn't that what professional boxing is always about?

Didn't Sanchez say nearly 2 years ago that GGG/Ward wouldn't make financial sense, and haven't we since found out that HBO told both camps back then that they were not willing to fund the fight till it became PPV worthy?

ok, we agree then there is no more debate needed.

[Mike_R]

I think it's okay personally.

I'm completely satisfied with an eventual match between Ward vs. Kovalev

and I would prefer for GGG to unify 160 and stay there until he meets Canelo (or maybe Cotto.... but probably Canelo regardless how their fight plays out in Nov.)

If GGG stays focused on middleweight he could break some records and make some history. There are a lot of good fights to be made without him leaving that division. And Ward still hasn't fully left the neighborhood by going to 175. We might still see it, just not in the next couple years.

[bigdunny1]

that's what he was going to do with chavez and froch so that's what I want him to do with ward.

why is that so wrong? Its the same thing, its just ward is more of a test than froch who is more of a test than chavez.

is it worth getting the vacant belt if its stripped from cotto/canelo?

Would you prefer ggg/lee or ggg/ward?

Problem is you assuming worst case scenario. There are too many moving parts to say for certain belt will be vacant. Fact is GGG has more options then he had a few years ago. His situation at middleweight has changed he no longer needs to move up to get a big fight. He is staying at 160 and letting the cotto/canelo situation play out before he moves up. Ward again has no leverage and no options except move up to 175. GGG is headlining PPV while Ward is fighting on BET and has no fights lined up.

[Barcham]

why do you insist on ignoring the simple fact that the Lemieux unification and the WBC mandate for Cotto-Canelo winner to fight GGG or get stripped has CHANGED THE CIRCUMSTANCES for Golovkin? He is no longer in the situation he was in 6 months ago. He no longer needs to look outside 160, as his dance card is full for the next 6-12 months......

Trying to be logical with a Ward fan is pointless to begin with. But to make it worse, you are bringing time frames into it when Ward fans are still stuck in 2011 and the Super Six is still going on.

Nothing you say will ever matter. They are intellectually incapable of understanding you.

[OnePunch]

No offense dude, but how likely is it?

if cotto wins you and others think cotto will not fight GGG. If Canelo wins, you think they will fight, but are not 100% sure even though the WBC has a rule in place. Many of you think that either will drop the belt-thus getting GGG a title fight with another lower class fighter-that's if the WBC doesn't change and let Haymon guys sneak in. He will also never get the belts Haymon guys have.

So my premise is exactly true-when GGG doesn't get the fights he wants he takes the easier road to stay undefeated to maximize his earnings if he gets the BIG fight he covets.

unless you are psychic, you have no idea what will happen after Cotto-Canelo. Neither do I. I have my OPINION. Nothing more, nothing less. And if I were representing GGG, my opinion aside, I would wait for the result and see what the winner does. Worse case scenario my guy picks up the WBC strap, does a unification with Lee, and then moves on.

It was a good enough strategy for Hopkins, and unifying 160 led him to much bigger and better things.......

[just the facts]

I dont know why this is soooooo hard for people to understand. Loeffler has said from day 1 that their main focus was unifying 160, but if they couldnt get the other 160 champs then they would look at going outside 160 for a BIG fight. During that whole time, not a PEEP from Ward. So NOW that they got one of the champs (Lemieux) signed, and another (Cotto-Canelo winner) mandated to fight him next, here comes Ward rattling his tin cup wanting a 50-50 commitment for a fight that is probably 18 months away (Wards offer was for next fall at the earliest)

My personal belief is that should Cotto beat Canelo, he will NOT fight GGG. That being said, I understand Loeffler waiting to see who actually wins the fight, and what happens afterwards.

And sorry to break it to you, but GGG-Ward is NOT a mega fight. Its definitely a "notable" fight, but a mega-fight? please.........

another 10+ page thread, but this is not a mega fight?

HBO just named Ward & ggg #s 1 and 2 p4p, but this is not a mega fight?

[OnePunch]

Trying to be logical with a Ward fan is pointless to begin with. But to make it worse, you are bringing time frames into it when Ward fans are still stuck in 2011 and the Super Six is still going on.

Nothing you say will ever matter. They are intellectually incapable of understanding you.

This is quite true. I feel like I'm talking to a 3 year old who has their fingers in their ears saying "lalalalalalalala I cant hear you!!!!"

[OnePunch]

another 10+ page thread, but this is not a mega fight?

HBO just named Ward & ggg #s 1 and 2 p4p, but this is not a mega fight?

8 guys arguing on a message board does not equate to "mega fight". Sorry.......

[bigjavi973]

and Ward fans want GGG to go up and fight Ward first, then come down in weight to fight Cotto/Canelo.

Hmmm, which is a more equitable situation:

Ward going up 3 (172 to 175) and then down 7 (175 to 168)

GGG going up 8 (160 to 168) then down 11 (168 to 157) for Cotto-Canelo


Ward stans are full of it.......

Because:

GGG vs Froch- 168 lbs
GGG vs Chavez Jr- 168 lbs
GGG vs Ward- 164 lbs

Gullible Gennady Groupies are even more full of it.

[Mr.Daddy]

There is no question that GGG has surpassed Andre Ward as being the more powerful box office attraction. GGG has a style that fans find to be exciting; Ward has a style that even purists let alone the common fan finds to be frustrating. GGG fights frequently. Ward doesn't (for whatever reason). Both fighters are family men who set a positive image for their public in every aspect of life, so neither gets the "bad boy" following. At this point in their careers, GGG is the 'A' side, and Andre Ward isn't. Fifty-fifty split is not a reasonable proposition. My advice to Andre Ward? Fight GGG for whatever percentage will allow the fight to be made, and then do your best to win. If Ward does beat GGG (which I don't believe that he can) then he'll once again be the 'A' side and demand the lion's share. Either that or employ the same strategy with Sergey Kovalev (another fight that IMHO Ward won't win) and see the same results: career resurrection and 'A' side percentage.