Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: Ward Looking Less and Less Likely

[aboutfkntime]

You don't get my post? It's simple. Andre Ward - the recognized Super-Middleweight Champion and considered P4P # 2, and also considered P4P one of the most skilled boxers, is chasing after a guy beneath him, who is not only smaller but doesn't even bring a real Title to the table. A mere paper champ.

On Paper, this is what we call taking the path of least resistance. Andre Ward already received one Free-bee when Chad Dawson - The Light-Heavyweight Champ at that time - decided to move down in weight to fight him. He defeated a Light-Heavyweight Champ at 168. He does not get to keep staying at 168 with Middleweights and Light-Heavyweights accommodating him by coming to his division. It's his turn to do what he asks GGG to do. It's his turn to do what Dawson already did. It's his turn to leave his division and go to another division (albeit a bigger division, unless he is interested in winning a Middleweight Title and can make 160).

I answered your question earlier, and reading this post changed nothing.

Ward wants what every fighter wants, shine AND a good payday, and Golovkin just so happens to be the easiest way to get it.

Which is a lot more than Golovkin wants from Ward !

This is what happened.....

Team Golovkin said.....

* " anyone from 154-168 "
* they were willing to fight Froch and Chavez
* they stated that Gennady would KTFO Ward
* they stated that Ward would run
* they stated that Ward would duck Gennady

Ward called their bluff !

I laughed !

You made excuses !

[Progrssive_Jedi]

CoWard had a chance to fight him, turned him down

According to Abel at least. But CoAward fans continue to attach themselves to a lie.


"Andre Ward's a liar. When he sent that email, it was after the Lemieux fight had already signed," he said. "So he's a liar. Secondly, we've been trying to get Andre Ward to come to some kind of agreement for the last couple years. First, he was in trouble with Goossen, they were suing each other, and Goossen beat him three times.

"Then he signed with Roc Nation. Go back and look at the transcripts, the first thing Roc Nation said was he needs two tune-up fights. Then he fights one at 172. We as Golovkin's team cannot sit around waiting for Andre Ward to make up his mind what he wants to do."

Correct, and that is the only reason Ward was even in the conversation. He has a good name. However lots of other people have great names and bring other things to the conversation. Andy Lee and Lemiex bring belts, Froch brings popularity, while Cotto or Canelo bring both.

Until those options are either exhausted (fights take place) or are unavailable (fighters refuse to fight GGG or retire), fight with Andre Ward does not make sense.

I don't believe either fighter is actively "ducking" or is "afraid" of one another. Ward wants to attach himself to a popular fighter in order to get back into public view.
It has taken GGG 10 years to become a main attraction, and he doesn't want to waste his precious few remaining prime years fighting for no reward. Don't forget that GGG is already 33. Miguel Cotto is only a year older and is already seen as past his prime and has talked about retiring.

Honestly, I think many want Canelo to have easy path to MW champ, because he isn't good at Jr.MW. He squeaked by Lara.

GGG beats Ward, that all the excuse they need for Canelo to duck him.

Not falling for it though.

Ward can't sell out in his own state.

Come one! Really!

are u a manager or a fan? if he loses to ward he can go right back to 168..and if he wins the world is put on notice..if he beats froch who really cares..if that meant something ward would be the man right? stop the silliness..u mentioned andy lee in the same sentence with ward...u lost credibility right then and there..

im a floyd can i couldnt image type u a paragraph or two about why he should fight manny when they are number 1 and 2 lb for lb...

He beats Ward, he forfeits any shot at unifying MW, and is equally ducked at 168.

Give up money fight for that. No way. Dumb!

Believe me, the clamor for the Ward vs Golovkin fight will be in full force just right after the Lemieux fight.

Either Ward mans up and do something about it, or just prepare for a more dangerous fight, which is Kovalev. If it's the latter, then he needs to tell the media about it, so fans can move on.

Stop fooling yourselves that Cotto or Canelo would fight Golovkin right away after their fight.

This Ward vs Golovkin issue has to be settled once and for all.

Even if Cotto/Canelo do duck, they'll losing the Lineal MW belt, which is the goal anyways.

It'd be nice to take Canelo out, but he doesn't want to fight a guy 5 pounds lighter than him.

Get your fingers out of you ears.

Countless 10 plus page threads day after day and HBO just naming Ward and ggg number 1 and 2 does make it a "mega fight"

I see where denying it fits you agenda but that doesn't make it fact.

A nagging question, why don't you and the other ggg ball gaggers want to see ggg test himself. Call me crazy, but I wanted to see if gggs skills are actually good enough to beat a top shelf fighter like Ward. Approaching his mid 30s and not one top shelf fighter yet and no concrete plans to fight one

HBO is working on a Ward Kolalev fight next fall.

GGG has plenty of fights in front of him.

I'm not sure Ward takes HBO's deal.

u wer not right there and that is not how tom explained it..he said it was said in conversation...and dont play me as if he was drawing up the terms for david while he was around a bunch of media ppl...he spoke his mind and the truth...the blow back from non fanboys made him come with this "it was just a conversation"...but the truth was he had ever intention on getting all advantages..

GGG is a sham and not beating ward bc u wanted to fight a cotto who lost at every weight he's ever been at is not going to be excusable in the long run..bc fans know u can take 3 fights a year...and fans will someday ask why wasnt ward one of those fights...and

Ward wanted it next fall.

GGG has plenty of time in his career to fight Ward.

This is about what you want, not what makes sense.

Great stuff here !!!

I've frequently warned these drones about depleting themselves of excuses to justify gggs cowardly maneuvers . So they they thought they got smart and started making excuses for Ward instead . Some sad sh.t !

You are so damn fact challenged it's comical.

The hate is strong with this one.

Every step GGG takes towards super stardom is gonna make you nuts isn't it.

Are you buying an Apple Watch anytime soon?

How long are you gonna hang to that one comment about him fighting anybody from 154-168? Isn't there an expiration date on hanging that around his neck?

Yes, he is like everyone else. It's a round robin of ducking. Ward too was vying for an opportunity to fight Chavez Jr, it's embarrassing. The difference is their circumstances. One is a mere Title holder yet to become the lineal Champ of his division, and the other guy already cleaned out his division and is long overdue for a move-up.

They think that comments somehow means they have to take any and all fights at the minute it's offered.

Ward remembered that GGG called him back in 2013 and in 2014.
Now that Golovkin finally has some money fights lined up, Ward thought it's the moment to call him back and embarrass him. Not such a big deal.
The "big deal" will show up when Ward announces his actual next opponent.

Team GGG has responded to Ward's PR stunt. Ward says he has proof. But I'm hearing crickets!

[kafkod]

You know exactly what that meant

You said that GGG and Ward are in different divisions...... I said, so fkn what, Froch/Chavez fight in the same division as Ward, and Hypekin was happy to fight them.

And I'm sure you remember the good ol " anyone from 154-168 " comment.

Weak !



You said this..... " I would definitely not support him if he asked for a catchweight to defend it "..... insinuating that it is weak to demand a catchweight from someone in your own division.

I simply pointed out yet another of your convenient double-standards..... considering that Pac did that to Cotto at 147, and then he refused to fight him at 154, despite Cotto offering him a catchweight of 150.

So why does Manny refusing to fight Cotto at 154 mean that I have double standards?

[SugarRaRobinson]

Being a fan doesn't mean making up bullsht about "Lil' G is scared of Ward". Neither of them are scared of each other. I think Ward is a greatly talented boxer but a huge egotistical ass of a person. It's why most people don't like him.

Lee has a belt in GGG's division that would be on the line. Ward does not.
If he beats Froch he gains a country of fans. If he beats Ward, he gets 1/4 of a message board of fans.

Floyd is a rich and famous. GGG is neither.

Being brash , bold and egotistical r part and parcel with being a boxer . Kov is the most egotistical boxer in the game right now (bar none) while knowing only 10 words of English . One must wonder if color is the guiding force behind your views cconsidering I've NEVER heard u complain about Kov being egotistical . if Kovalev's ego doesn't turn your stomach then no one's should .

[aboutfkntime]

TEAM GOLOVKIN:
* we will fight anyone from 154-168
* we will fight Froch and Chavez at 168
* Gennady would KTFO Ward
* Ward would run
* Ward would duck Gennady

ANDRE WARD: OK, lets go !

ME: hahahah

GOLOVTARDS: a -side doe, cw doe, boring doe, not a draw doe

[aboutfkntime]

So why does Manny refusing to fight Cotto at 154 mean that I have double standards?

Did you co-sign those two examples of weight-manipulation ?

Be honest, its a real simple search.

[kafkod]

Did you co-sign those two examples of weight-manipulation ?

Be honest, its a real simple search.

Well, Manny and Cotto are in different divisions, so even if I did co-sign that, it wouldn't mean I have double standards.


But I didn't, as a matter of fact.

But don't take my word on it, I could be lying.

I think you should start searching immediately and see if you can catch me out.

[MDPopescu]

...

Do you ask yourself, sometimes: "Where is Ward at now? Is he fighting a retired bloke, again? When and where? At what weight?"

[Progrssive_Jedi]

TEAM GOLOVKIN:
* we will fight anyone from 154-168
* we will fight Froch and Chavez at 168
* Gennady would KTFO Ward
* Ward would run
* Ward would duck Gennady

ANDRE WARD: OK, lets go !

ME: hahahah

GOLOVTARDS: a -side doe, cw doe, boring doe, not a draw doe

You know saying you'll fight anyone from 154-168 doesn't mean you do it when they want. But here, since you take that comment from Abel as the true comment they should be held to, how about this.

Andre Ward's a liar. When he sent that email, it was after the Lemieux fight had already signed," he said. "So he's a liar. Secondly, we've been trying to get Andre Ward to come to some kind of agreement for the last couple years. First, he was in trouble with Goossen, they were suing each other, and Goossen beat him three times.

"Then he signed with Roc Nation. Go back and look at the transcripts, the first thing Roc Nation said was he needs two tune-up fights. Then he fights one at 172. We as Golovkin's team cannot sit around waiting for Andre Ward to make up his mind what he wants to do."


So they actually are saying we offered him fights, multiple times.

So how only do they have to take a Ward fight, they have to sign a contract and fight Ward 1 year, 4 months later, because Ward says so.

Respect the facts man!

You are drowning here.

[aboutfkntime]

Well, Manny and Cotto are in different divisions, so even if I did co-sign that, it wouldn't mean I have double standards.


But I didn't, as a matter of fact.

But don't take my word on it, I could be lying.

I think you should start searching immediately and see if you can catch me out.

Nope, I will take your word for it.

The fact that catchweights are obviously being abused is very apparent.

You can argue about the money, fair enough..... but the catchweight demand for Ward was a blatant duck.

It is not the fact that GGG was willing to fight Froch and Chavez at 168.....
..... it is the fact that they know Ward cant make 164.