Comments Thread For: Team Golovkin Will Want More Than 50% From Ward

[ИATAS]

son purse bids have no baring on weight...none..the lead promoter will right it into the contract and if the guy rejects then he rejects his number 1 spot...

Once again you prove you have no clue what you're talking about. Any catchweight could only happen if the two sides agreed to it. If they cannot agree and the fight goes to a purse bid, it would be the full 160 maximum weight, being that it's for the 160 pound belt. A promoter can't simply write in the desired weight into the contract are you seriously this dumb?

[Barcham]

if cotto beats canelo then the ggg fight would never go to bid, because if it did go to bid it would be at 160 and everyone knows cotto would vacate before fighting ggg at 160, regardless of the split.

OK, people really need to understand something here. Golovkin is the MANDATORY defense for the winner of Cotto - Canelo. As a MANDATORY defense, there can be NO CONDITIONS imposed on the fight such as a catchweight. The fight must happen at the 160 limit. The only things to be negotiated will be the venue and date. I do not even think the purse split can be negotiated very much. Any conditions the champion attempts to impose on a MANDATORY challenger can be refused and will result in the champion being stripped of his title.

This fight will not go to a purse bid. The winner will either decide to fight or to vacate. There will be little time wasted in negotiations.

As for tili 'stilleto' heels... the guy knows nothing at all about boxing which is why I have him on my ignore list. It is like attempting to debate mathematics with someone who cannot add 1+1. A total waste of time and nothing but endless frustration.

[HeroBando]

wow unproven mw...but i bet he's on your p4p list...u need to stop..

I admit his resume is not p4p. Doesn't matter, he's got zero credentials at 168, unlike Floyd who's got all-world creds at 154 where GGG offered to meet him. Plus even with his growing momentum, GGG still doesn't bring near the money that Floyd does. Sorry bud, another fail.

[tiliheels]

Once again you prove you have no clue what you're talking about. Any catchweight could only happen if the two sides agreed to it. If they cannot agree and the fight goes to a purse bid, it would be the full 160 maximum weight, being that it's for the 160 pound belt. A promoter can't simply write in the desired weight into the contract are you seriously this dumb?

he we go again..another dumbie reading the wbc's handbook that has been purchased and rewritten for the right amount of money time and time again..
i'd love to go by the rules here to, but i also enjoy being a realist...wbc is not going to miss out on takin away from cotto/canelo's huger purse for some damn Kazick...

and if u think ggg wants a purse bid to avoid 155 that means he'll be stuck with only 25% and likely screwed by the wbc once roc nation pays them to sanction the bout at 155

[OnePunch]

OK, people really need to understand something here. Golovkin is the MANDATORY defense for the winner of Cotto - Canelo. As a MANDATORY defense, there can be NO CONDITIONS imposed on the fight such as a catchweight. The fight must happen at the 160 limit. The only things to be negotiated will be the venue and date. I do not even think the purse split can be negotiated very much. Any conditions the champion attempts to impose on a MANDATORY challenger can be refused and will result in the champion being stripped of his title.

This fight will not go to a purse bid. The winner will either decide to fight or to vacate. There will be little time wasted in negotiations.

As for tili 'stilleto' heels... the guy knows nothing at all about boxing which is why I have him on my ignore list. It is like attempting to debate mathematics with someone who cannot add 1+1. A total waste of time and nothing but endless frustration.

thats not totally accurate. Although you are correct in that conditions cannot be imposed if it goes to a purse bid, they are free to negotiate whatever they want prior to the fight going to bid.

The leverage that the mandatory challenger has over a voluntary, is that he can refuse to budge on the terms and the champ has to either participate in the purse bid at the full weight, or vacate / get stripped.

[OnePunch]

Once again you prove you have no clue what you're talking about. Any catchweight could only happen if the two sides agreed to it. If they cannot agree and the fight goes to a purse bid, it would be the full 160 maximum weight, being that it's for the 160 pound belt. A promoter can't simply write in the desired weight into the contract are you seriously this dumb?

it seems that he is, because he is doubling down on the idea that a purse bid winner can write whatever weight they want on the contract.

too funny............

[HeroBando]

look i changed my stance on ggg ward...but dont BS me and say ward wouldnt be a ppv fight when ***ing david L is a ppv fight...

but like is said i changed my sstance...ward ggg needs to be in late 2016 or early 2017...thats only if ggg has to fight cotto or canelo at 155...

if he cant get that fight or doesnt adhere to 155 he should go right to ward

its all on him we know its 155 or nothing and there is no way to avoid it..

i woudlnt ask him to drop 13lbs from 168 to 155 in one fight...but he's said he can do 168 to 160 and if hewanted he could work his way back down to 160..by fightin at 164 or lower instead of the official 160..nobody is going to strip him bc he is a ppv star

David L needs like 200k to be a successful ppv since neither guy is asking for that much, and Lemieux brings his Canada PPV. Plus it's guaranteed fireworks, casuals love that. There won't be any buyers remorse. Casuals hate clinching and spoiling, it's why hardly anybody tunes in when Ward is on basic cable.

[tiliheels]

I admit his resume is not p4p. Doesn't matter, he's got zero credentials at 168, unlike Floyd who's got all-world creds at 154 where GGG offered to meet him. Plus even with his growing momentum, GGG still doesn't bring near the money that Floyd does. Sorry bud, another fail.

i woudlnt say floyd has all world cred there until he beat andrade and lara...

he's picked good stylistic fights to go up to his "last" weight division...but all world cred means he'd be willing to fight all styles at that division and he is not..and dont think he should..tbh

either way u slice it wardggg is more even in weight therefore the bout is the more even bout...ggg would be 175 in the ring vs floyd at 150...just bc floyd has given that advantabe before doesnt mean he should keep doing that..that wear and tear on the body

[damian War]

time for Ward to fight a quality fighter his own size for a change. No catchweights, no bums like Paul Smith. I will even give him a bit of a pass and let him take on Martin Murray, someone Golovkin already beat. But unfortunately for Ward, he would have to leave the US to do that so we know that that idea is a non starter.

Whatever way you look at it, it is time for Ward to get on with his career and stop waiting for a middleweight to move up and fight him.

that's funny, i look at little g's resume and all i see is Paul Smith caliber opponents.. a fan of little g under no circumstances should bash on anybody's resume. . now he faces Rubio's leftover and that's his biggest test lol.

[tiliheels]

it seems that he is, because he is doubling down on the idea that a purse bid winner can write whatever weight they want on the contract.

too funny............

no i'm doubling down on the idea that the WBC will do anything, even rewrite their written rules, to get their fuggin money...if u disagree with that then fine