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True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?

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    Originally posted by No Tomorrow View Post
    By the way for any one who wants to know :

    In 1990 Michael Nunn was rated #3 pound for pound behind Julio Cesar Chavez & Pernell Whitaker
    Thats what I seem to remember. And honestly, in most peoples book you could have put him at #1 and not gotten any argument.

    It was the JCC Pernell Rivalry that kept them at the time, like the Vazquez vs MArquez rivalry kept them at the top of p4p for a bit.

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      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
      Michael Nunns resume is nowhere near Mannny Pacquiao's. He's a good/great fighter but he is nowhere near Pacquiao in terms of accomplishments, resume, impact on the sport.
      Of course not, he was a young prime fighter, who was wrecked by James Toney. Not a vetran at the end of a long illustrious career.

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        Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
        Dude, you know nothing about boxing. Things he never did? Do you know what a run Tate, Starling, Curry is?

        All 3 of those are probably better than the top 3 wins of Floyds Career.
        Starling was jumping up 2 weight classes to fight Nunn and he still got a MD, and Curry never fought at 160 before this fight either and he had some losses to D level fighters, if u call these "impressive wins" I don't know what to tell u.

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          Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
          I always encourage people to watch fights objectively. Pacquaio clearly dominated the first half of the fight. But when Bradley decided to box, and get on his bike, Pacquiao had ZERO answers for it. Bradley outboxed him comfortably in the 2nd half of the fight. Add in that many of the punches you think Pacquiao landed, he didnt. A lot of people dont see this, but as someone with years in the ring, you can tell when a fighter is being slick and making punches miss by 1cm, and when he is being tagged. Bradley was being slick most the fight, but not winning rounds until he got hurt and started to box.
          Watched the fight million times, noway Bradley won more thn 4 rounds, no damn way!

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            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
            OK both Nunn and Pacquiao were champions. Pacquiao had defeated more champions, had more wins, and was ranked higher p4p than Nunn was. Yes, Nunn was skillful but you can't undoubtedly say he was better than Manny Pacquiao. Yes, Manny was a couple years past his prime but even past his prime was ranked more highly than Nunn.

            I think a more comparable fight would be Floyd/Corrales. Corrales was undefeated, in his prime, a top ten p4p fighter, had 30 KOs out of 33 victories and was the betting favorite. And Floyd absolutely dominated him.
            Even at his best, Pacquaio never approached Nunn Skill wise. I love Manny as a fighter, becuase he consistently won fights he shouldn't have been able to win.

            He was not special for his skill, he was special for his ability to win the big fights he wasnt suppose to win.

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              Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
              Watched the fight million times, noway Bradley won more thn 4 rounds, no damn way!
              I honestly doubt you have.

              What round did Bradley start boxing?

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                Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
                Starling was jumping up 2 weight classes to fight Nunn and he still got a MD, and Curry never fought at 160 before this fight either and he had some losses to D level fighters, if u call these "impressive wins" I don't know what to tell u.
                You are just looking at boxrec. You never watched either of them fight.

                Thats like looking at Castillos and Maidana's records and being like, they are bums, FLoyd is a bum for having close fights with them.

                Records dont tell the story of a fighter. Records reflect how well a fighter was managed. Thats it. There is someone out there who can beat any fighter.

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                  Originally posted by arraamis View Post
                  IMHO, Here's where the comparison differs greatly, and kind of colors a response\answer.

                  Both Nunn and Toney had comparable (not exactly alike) skills and achievements. Both were high on the totem pole and both were viewed as great boxer's with few if any competitors or equals. It can be confidently stated that they matched each other talent for talent.

                  Who can we pin-point as comparable to Floyd during his reign?

                  Again IMHO, this has been a shortcoming during Floyd's career, because I honestly cannot state that there was another boxer that was close to being on equal footing with Floyd during his career. The closest boxer is and was Manny ... Outside of Manny, very few could match Floyd talent for talent, like Nunn could match Toney, talent for talent.

                  That stated, what is the basis of the answers posted?

                  Just curious ................
                  Pacquaio, and Cotto were his two legitimate foils, he waited out both of their primes, waited for them to both get KOed before fighting them.

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                    Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                    I honestly doubt you have.

                    What round did Bradley start boxing?
                    He started moving in the 6th and won the 7th on my scorecard, and that was the first round I gave him, , then he lost the 8th and 9th, these are 8 rounds he lost right there, none of the media outlets, nor the boxing experts, nor the fighters or trainers, not the unofficial judge, nor the commentators saw this fight as being even a close fight, there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL Bradley won this fight!

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                      Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Post
                      Skills for skills he was, but when u compare accomplishments they're very close and that was my point, Bradley had a great run at 140 just like the run Nunn had before he fought Toney. There were a lot of talented fighters that acvomplished less than much lesser fighters, and that's irrelevant, only accomplishments matter, not potential cuz nobody can predict the future.
                      Run for run? Okay... but you admit that Nunn was MUCH more skilled than Bradley correct?

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