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True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View PostI've seen all these fights, and I don't have to see a fight to know that these people were moving up in weight to fight Nunn, they were unranked at middleweight, which doesn't prove much at middleweight.
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View PostStarling was jumping up 2 weight classes to fight Nunn and he still got a MD, and Curry never fought at 160 before this fight either and he had some losses to D level fighters, if u call these "impressive wins" I don't know what to tell u.
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View Postu can't be this dumb, read the comment again, he was declared a monster in 2009, Cotto got KTFO in 2008, does that mean Pacquiao waited for Cotto to get KOed? Floyd fought Cotto in 2012, 2012-2008=4
The people have spoken anyway look at the poll/.
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Originally posted by Pac=Duran View PostTalking about guys jumping up weight classes and saying that it means a win is lessened> B-Hops best win was a career welterweight coming up weight classes. Floyd's best win is a diminished version of a career junior bantamweight who started at 108 pounds. Nunn's resume is legit as ****, and Toney's win over him is far better than any individual win Floyd has.
The people have spoken anyway look at the poll/.
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View PostWhat about growing into the weight, Manny has been fighting at 147 for 6 years, Curry and Starling where having their first fights at 160, a huge difference!
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View PostSo u judge fighters by potential? not by actual accomplishments? and u call me a bum? How is that supposed to make sense, u r giving Nunn credit for things he never did, he displayed his skills against subpar competition but when he faced other ATG fighters he lost, all the would'ves should've and could'ves don't matter, what he accomplished in the ring is what matters, Joan Guzman was a very skillful fighter with a lot of potential, did he have ATG accomplishments? NO, which doesn't make him an ATG. Nunn had a better career than Guzman, but also him didn't reach that ATG level, when he stepped to the big time he lost, live with it.
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Originally posted by No Tomorrow View PostKO1 over Sumbu Kalambay is an incredible win. Please know what you're talking about. It's embarrassing
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Originally posted by !! Shawn View PostEven at his best, Pacquaio never approached Nunn Skill wise. I love Manny as a fighter, becuase he consistently won fights he shouldn't have been able to win.
He was not special for his skill, he was special for his ability to win the big fights he wasnt suppose to win.
With that said, Pacquiao is far more accomplished than Nunn. Freddie Roach has said James Toney was more talented than Manny. But Toney is nowhere near as accomplished as Manny. That's why I say Manny is a bigger win than Nunn.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostWhat fights were those? He was the favorite against Morales in the first and second fight. He was the favorite against Hatton and Cotto, He was the favorite against Marquez in all four fights. The only fight where he was the underdog and still came out on top was against De La Hoya. And De La Hoya was a shell of himself.
With that said, Pacquiao is far more accomplished than Nunn. Freddie Roach has said James Toney was more talented than Manny. But Toney is nowhere near as accomplished as Manny. That's why I say Manny is a bigger win than Nunn.
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