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    Originally posted by mike1010011 View Post
    Here come the 30+ pages...brace yourselves...
    You called it lmao

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      Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
      Ward said he's willing to come down to 160 for Floyd and I bet if Chavez Jr. would have offered the fight at 164 he would have taking it.

      I don't care either way but I can't stand bias boxing fans. You're only confident in Ward winning because of size advantage and anything that threatens that is a coward move.

      fact is Wardcould have fought Dawson at 172 but saw an opportunity to one up Dawson.

      Fact is 50/50 and 164lbs is fair to both fighters.
      Fact is your the only being bias for triple G when he was moving up the full 8lbs to fight those guys but ward has to be 164 Dawson said he will go down ward didn't ask him post fight Hopkins he said it ward took him up on offer don't mention something then try and use it as excuse for losing Dawson can control what comes out his mouth he said it ward said 160 over two years ago for Floyd dream fight like triple G saying 154 for dream fight with Floyd cut the bs his team trying duck ward

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        What a joke...

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          Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
          Andre Ward is a promoter's worst nightmare. Here we have a rising star who is knocking fighters out and has a cult-like following and you want him to face a highly skilled, bigger fighter that isn't a superstar. Not over Loeffler's dead body. He'll do his best to make sure this fight doesn't happen right now.

          It's ok to fight Froch and Chavez at 168 but not Ward. Anyone who thinks Ward should go down to 164 is out of their mind. As a fan of a fighter, you should want him to fight the best without bogus stipulations.
          You must hate Ward for the Dawson fight.

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            They were willing to go to 168 for Froch and Chavez, why not Ward? Granted, the money won't be as good but it's a much bigger money fight than the likes of Monroe and Geale. Who are his other options? Tureano Johnson and Heiland?

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              Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
              Name who beats him at

              154
              160
              168
              154 floyd and Miguel absolute
              160 floyd and miguel have a good chance
              168 ward absolute.

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                Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce View Post
                You must hate Ward for the Dawson fight.
                Ward should've fought Dawson at 175. As you see he gets little credit for the fight. But you must also remember that Dawson said he would fight Ward at 168 and that he could make the weight. As a Ward fan, I would have liked to see the fight at 175. As a Golovkin fan, I would like to see a fight between him and Ward at 168.

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                  Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
                  Ward should've fought Dawson at 175. As you see he gets little credit for the fight. But you must also remember that Dawson said he would fight Ward at 168 and that he could make the weight. As a Ward fan, I would have liked to see the fight at 175. As a Golovkin fan, I would like to see a fight between him and Ward at 168.
                  Ward said he'd fight Floyd at 160. A side just called shots and out it right in the middle at 64. Answer the phone Andre, your card has been pulled.

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                    I see now reason for this fight not to get made now

                    Ward was the A side and made Dawson go down in weight

                    GGG is the A side here and is making him go down in weight

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                      Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
                      Even if they were equals in terms of marketing, Golovkin is the one risking his reputation by moving up in weight while Ward gets to fight at his natural weight. That alone negates a 50/50 premise.

                      But they're not equal in terms of marketing. What kind of numbers do you think Golovkin would've pulled in on BET vs Paul Smith? Way freaking more than the 323k Ward did. No, Golovkin is a legitimately bigger name at the current time.

                      Roc Nation is already losing millions on Ward with his outrageous purse, time buy and ticket comping. He doesn't bring in Mexican revenue like Chavez and he doesn't bring in UK revenue like Froch. You want Golovkin to move up and risk his current market status, then there's got to be some significant give on Ward's end.
                      How much money did Golovkin bring in at the gate for his fight at The Forum in LA against Willie Monroe Jr, and how much money did Ward bring in at the gate for his fight at Oracle Arena in Oakland.

                      Because that's the only real objective metric to measure things by at this point (Ward took home a far larger check for his fight, both TV deals were from opposite spectra, etc).

                      If Golovkin did $1m at the Forum (haven't been able to find the gate information for Ward's last fight, but the announced attendance was over 9,100 people and, comparing to the last fight at Oracle, he likely ended up selling 8,000 tickets), he's got something to stand on; Ward's last gate in Oakland was just over $700k, I couldn't find how those tickets were priced (likely at/lower than what the Ward-Smith tickets were priced).

                      Till then, such talk is just bluster.

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