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"Krusher" Kovalev vs RJJ@ 168-175lbs/12-12.5 Stone. Who wins?

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    #71
    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    He was undefeated and untouched in his prime vs far far better fighters than Kovalev has fought.

    FAR better.

    So yeah, it makes sense to think of Roy as the better fighter.

    NSB jizzes every time a puncher comes around.

    #MatthysseToBeatMayweather
    Good post. I may not have liked Roy as much as others, but its clear most NSB posters have become enamored with power and forget it takes more than that to win a fight.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
      Disagree there too. Pacquiao 2007-2010 is the greatest fighter since Muhammed Ali even. Unreal. The most electrifying too.
      Pacquiao's resume from 2007-2010 is great, but not the best since Ali. Not by a long shot..

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        #73
        Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
        I don't care what version of Roy it is. He gets KO'ed. What we didn't know about Roy back then, was that he couldn't take a punch. Against A Level fighters, you WILL get hit. You all act as if Roy is an ATG. He's not. He's a HOF'mer whose resume is suspect. You guys overrate Roy. You overrate Hopkins. You overrate Floyd. Guess what? I won't play that game. I call things like I see them. SK is too smart to be pot-shotted by Roy for 12 rounds. Roy has NEVER fought a pressure fighter like SK. What he did to Hopkin's was not a fluke because of Hopkin's age. Hopkin's has the upmost respect for him too. He would knock Roy COLD!




        The #1 Mayweather hater is also a Roy Jones hater. I’m shocked!

        You’re talking about Roy/Bernard/Floyd being overrated, yet you’re overrating the hell out of Kovalev. SMH. Since when did Kovalev become an A Level fighter? Beating a 50 year old and Jean Pascal makes you A level these days?

        So let me get this straight… SK would knock Roy COLD, yet he couldn’t knock Pascal or 50 year old Hops COLD? Where’s your logic?

        Roy beat James Toney and Bernard Hopkins. They are both A class fighters. He beat Hopkins like 20 years before Kovalev did it. LOL!

        Roy fought the one guy that legitimately beat him 3x. Can you say that for today’s fighters? We’re still waiting for Amir Khan to avenge any of his losses.

        You’re crazy as hell if you think Kovalev just walks through a young Roy. LMAO! Roy would pot shot Kovalev to death and unlike Pascal/Hopkins/etc… Roy could PUNCH. He’d have Kov on ***** street early and finish him late.

        Lets see how Kov fairs against Adonis and Ward first before he’s even mentioned in the same breath as Roy Jones.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
          Nah wasn't around to see everything unfold but i've watched his fights. How can you deny that Roy's resume is dog **** compared to what it should have been? No Nunn, No Toney rematch, No Darius, No Eubank, No Benn, No Collins. There's an AWFUL lot of filler in Roy's record. Absolute dross lol
          Kovalev made his name off of fighting a guy Roy beat 20 years ago.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
            I see Kovalev moving up and being Cruiserweight champ. I also see Kovalev boxing the **** out of Donkey Wilder with relative ease.
            Wilder KO's Kovalev early.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
              Pacquiao's resume from 2007-2010 is great, but not the best since Ali. Not by a long shot..
              Not the resume I'm talking about the actual fighter from 2007-2010. He was electrifying, He was the perfect buzz saw of excitement and punches in bunches. If you could design a fighter that would put the people on their feet that would be it. Electrifying.

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                #77
                Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
                It's going to be harder for Light-Heavy's and below to become Heavyweight champions going forward. Look at the giants competing at Heavyweight now.
                If John Ruiz (the same one Jones fought) was the champion, I think Kovalev could take him. But instead Kovalev would have to fight Wladimir Klitschko to become Heavyweight champion.
                Kovalev can be successful at Cruiserweight though.
                Yeah of course, as I said earlier it would be wrong to act as if Ruiz was Lennox Lewis. I don't expect Kovalev to fight Wladimir, that would be ridiculous. I don't even expect him to fight at heavyweight but my point was if you're going to dismiss the Roy win at heavyweight it's at least worth discussing the same scenario for Kovalev.

                Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
                Sergey's chin is nowhere near the sand-castle level of Roy's. Also Roy was caught juicing, chin decreases when you go off roids. Roy is a fantastic fighter but Sergey is all wrong for him, I fully believe we are looking at an incredible all time great Lightheavy here. The perfect mix of everything, too smart to get out boxed all night and too powerful to not find the mark and finish. Against Roy and against Ruiz.It's insane you think Ruiz could beat Krusher lol
                Lol Kovalev is obviously the better fighter p4p but I just think there comes a time where the size difference is too much. Jones got away with it against Ruiz because of his ridiculous speed and athleticism, I just don't think Kovalev's would be suited to do well at heavyweight even if it's just against a solid heavyweight who is nothing special like Ruiz. Will his power have the same effect on a full fledged heavy? will he be able to carry the extra weight well? I dunno.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                  Wilder KO's Kovalev early.
                  Dustin Nicholas jab disagrees lololololol

                  Can you imagine what Kovalev's jab would do to Wilder's sand castle chin???? peeright: LOL

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                    Bryant Jennings, who is currently ranked in the top 5, is a 220+lb heavyweight. Call me when Kovalev goes to to HW and beats him...
                    The Fight doctor? The same one from thaboxingvoice?
                    LOL you're just a hater, I'm not even going to argue with you. You're stubborn af.

                    Plus, they're talking about challenging for the Heavyweight title. As far as I know Jennings isn't the champion.
                    Kovalev would have to go through 6'6" 245+lb Klitschko. Even Deontay Wilder would be more difficult than freaking John Ruiz lol. 6'7", 230 lb and with more power.

                    I'm not even arguing that Kovalev is greater than Jones, because that's not the case. Jones has accomplished more. But it's not fair to compare Ruiz to the Heavy's now. Even 6'3" Heavyweights are considered small now a days.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      the same so called bums you say he fought, Michalcewski fought them too...he fought Richard hall twice, griffin after Jones knocked him out..Derrick Harmon after Jones beat him

                      DM did beat him a few months prior but Jones knocked him out for the first time in his illustrious career
                      Hill essentially had one leg for the DM fight. Jones knocked out a 100% healthy Virgil Hill in 5 on a body shot.

                      Later on, DM would lose to Jones leftover Julio Gonzales.

                      Prime Roy Jones would have DESTROYED Kovalev...

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