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"Krusher" Kovalev vs RJJ@ 168-175lbs/12-12.5 Stone. Who wins?

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    #261
    Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
    He sure was! He never tested positive though. When he fought Ruiz at Heavyweight, he was roided. How do I know? Look at what happened to him just one fight after against Tarver. His body completely changed in appearance and still looks weird to this day. And SK doesn't need more time. HE would KO Roy's ass. Roy cannot and could not ever take a punch. SK would hit him clean. What don't these guys understand about that? Roy's speed/reflexes would not be enough to beat SK. HE would have to take punishment. Period.
    If he could never take a punch he would have got sparked out before fighting at heavyweight, let alone 175 and he started at 154


    sure you don't like him but the dude went 48-1 from 154-heavyweight with being dropped just once until he was 35....proof is in the pudding and he took good hard shots versus Tarver in fight one and didn't even wobble....the older you get the worse your punch reisitance is, plus the wear and tear of sparring training and fighting.....you don't sound like you really know too much about the sport or history at all....if you don't like Roy, that's fine but he will be remembered as the best of his time for a good reason....he was that good until he was 35+

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      #262
      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      I played your game long enough....KOV would get outboxed by a prime Jones and has not beaten anyone to indicate he could deal with a fighter with that kind of talent.....Jones has beat fighters as good or better than KOV


      Also no fighter in history fought every good fighter near or at their division....just deal with it, we can play ring around the rosie with every fighter in history's resume.
      It was just an observation I made. Jones has a fine resume, but some of his fans make Jones out to be something that is out of this world.

      Another observation is that Jones does great in fantasyfights. Its likely based on him looking like Superman against Paz etc.

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        #263
        Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
        He sure was! He never tested positive though. When he fought Ruiz at Heavyweight, he was roided. How do I know? Look at what happened to him just one fight after against Tarver. His body completely changed in appearance and still looks weird to this day. And SK doesn't need more time. HE would KO Roy's ass. Roy cannot and could not ever take a punch. SK would hit him clean. What don't these guys understand about that? Roy's speed/reflexes would not be enough to beat SK. HE would have to take punishment. Period.
        He was actually. He tested positive for steroids at the Hall fight. Hall was positive as well btw.

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          #264
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
          Prime Roy.
          Prime Roy all day.

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            #265
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            He was actually. He tested positive for steroids at the Hall fight. Hall was positive as well btw.
            Ripped Fuel was sold across the counter at any GMC or vitamin store but it had traces of a band substance. Anyone that follows boxing and wants to accuse him a fighter of PED use should at least do their research

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              #266
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              It was just an observation I made. Jones has a fine resume, but some of his fans make Jones out to be something that is out of this world.

              Another observation is that Jones does great in fantasyfights. Its likely based on him looking like Superman against Paz etc.
              He looked like Superman because he was an all time great and was very hard to beat in his prime....That Paz fight was far from his only dominant performance....Hopkins, McCallum, Hill, Toney, and Trinidad are all hall of famers and could barely win 3 rounds versus Jones

              Until he was past prime.....There were times he went fights without losing rounds.

              He earned that reputation by dominating world class opposition on a regular Basis vs world class competition

              Jones fought a lot of good fighters but people also look at how, he beat them....He is dominant like Golovkin was and did it versus waaaaaaay better opposition. That's why people wont bet against him in fantasy fights.....Even a past prime Jones showed a huge heart pulling out that Tarver fight and showed he could come from behind to win and he took some hellacious punches and didn't get dropped in that fight....dropping all that muscle to get back to 175 visibly drained him and affected him going forward....No 30+ old athlete is gonna perform the same dropping weight like that.....Look at guys like Eddie Chambers, Chris Byrd, Emile Griffith, when they tried to move back down in weight.....Lalonde should've never fought leonard at 168 just like Dawson career has not been the same since losing to Ward dropping one weight class


              Check out this video of Roy....it pretty much shows his rise and fall


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                #267
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                Ripped Fuel was sold across the counter at any GMC or vitamin store but it had traces of a band substance. Anyone that follows boxing and wants to accuse him a fighter of PED use should at least do their research
                He tested positive for steroids. You cannot test positive for ripped fuel dude.

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  He tested positive for steroids. You cannot test positive for ripped fuel dude.
                  their was traces of a banned substance in a legal over the counter product that he took, Ripped Fuel...forgot the name of the chemical think its nano something or another....the decision wasnt turned into a no contest because they investigated the situation.

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    their was traces of a banned substance in a legal over the counter product that he took, Ripped Fuel...forgot the name of the chemical think its nano something or another....the decision wasnt turned into a no contest because they investigated the situation.
                    Oh thats not true at all. Jones said it was Ripped Fuel. No official document ever said anything other than it was a steroid. What could Jones say? That he injected himself or that he bought some otc product? What would you say?

                    Investigated? Nope. The case was just put away. Nobody knows why. Negligence, bribery who knows? What we do know is that he was positive for steroids and never recieved any punishment.

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                      #270
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                      Oh thats not true at all. Jones said it was Ripped Fuel. No official document ever said anything other than it was a steroid. What could Jones say? That he injected himself or that he bought some otc product? What would you say?

                      Investigated? Nope. The case was just put away. Nobody knows why. Negligence, bribery who knows? What we do know is that he was positive for steroids and never recieved any punishment.

                      Well I guess that's all history, we can talk in circles about PED all day

                      did you have a chance to check out the video....Idk what ever happened to GorillaProductions but he had the best boxing highlights and tributes ever

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