Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[radioraheem]

Lots of fun ...... you still have no proof that there was no injury.

Commissions were aware of an injury. You own quotes say so. Thanks for providing my proof!

Due to when they knew about it, they couldn't assess if it required medication or not. That is obvious to EVERYONE except you and a few other Floyd fans. That's it! Everyone else knows that an injury occurred before the fight. That is why they had doctors with a prescription. That is what USADA approved of. Too bad you can't get it. So simple.

Why did Pacquiao's very own physicians green light him as being healthy to fight, and not being at risk, if he were indeed injured before the fight? If he was indeed injured, then his physicians would be either incompetent, or blatant liars. They even told NSAC that he did not NEED the medication being requested, and that he would be fine without it.

We interviewed the physicians representing Manny, and they advised us his health and safety would not be at risk if he fought without the injection."

[Spoon23]

round 3, documented connected shots. Clearly Pac's round.

[Spoon23]

Round 12, documented connected punches

clearly Pac's round.

[brickcityboxing]

OK... Dunn and Raheem... I'll take over from here I'm working overnight and have nothing else to do. You guys have done a great job keeping these idiots contained to this thread but no one can do it forever rest up fellas, I'll take this shift... You are doing God's work.

[ADP02]

Again, with your logic, NSAC needs proof that Pacquiao did not have an injury. The burden of proof was on Team Pacquiao, and Team Pacquaio did not provide the proof of an injury before the fight. As a result, NSAC denied the medication.

But according to your logic, NSAC should have provided proof that Pacquiao does not have an injury.

Official documentation showing and clearly stating an injury is proof. Witnesses is not concrete proof or confirmation, especially when there's a conflict of interest with the witnesses because they were recently employed by you.

Why did Pacquiao's very own physicians green light him as being healthy to fight, and not being at risk, if he were indeed injured before the fight? If he was indeed injured, then his physicians would be either incompetent, or blatant liars. They even told NSAC that he did not NEED the medication being requested, and that he would be fine without it.

Bud. Relax a bit. You are confusing yourself.

You are saying that Manny did not have an injury prior to the fight. That is separate from what the commission's requirements are and needs. So do not mix up the two

What you want to know does not even need an MRI, documents and in fact, you do not even need to be an expert doctor. Someone who witnessed the injury is sufficient and that has been given to you already. So you can go on but unless you have proof, then you are just posting nonsense.


The commission was aware that there was an injury. That quote has been supplied to you already.

What the commissions couldn't do is approve of giving Manny the medications. Not because there was no injury. It was because it was a few hours away from fight time and they needed to determine if the injury required this medication or not and their doctors didn't have enough time to monitor the situation sufficiently to approve of the medication. So they asked Manny's doctor if he can fight without the medication with his injury or was that impossible to do. Manny's doctor said while the best course of action is to apply the medication, Manny can still fight without it if need be.

Maybe you never did but many athletes play with certain injuries. Be it boxing or other sports. So the initial plan from Manny's team was to use medication and they had approval that they can also use it on fight night as per USADA. Once they were not allowed, they had to think it thru and decide if they can still go ahead without the medication. That does not mean that there was no injury or it all of a sudden disappeared. It meant that Manny had to fight with an injury that can potentially get even worse as the fight progresses.



"ElAttrache said that Pacquiao was able to get through the 12 rounds against Mayweather because he "modulated his approach. He moderated what he did with his right hand. His punch count was less than it has been. He did alter the way he fought to get through the fight with the injury. He is in pain."

"ElAttrache is a well-known sports surgeon who has operated on Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke and New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, as well as boxers such as former heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko and former welterweight titlist Andre Berto."

[ADP02]

Yeah the real radioraheem is a real boxing analyst. This poser is more of a crackhead type so he definitely not the real deal lol

Yup, definitely not the same guy, unfortunately.

[radioraheem]

Bud. Relax a bit. You are confusing yourself.

You are saying that Manny did not have an injury prior to the fight. That is separate from what the commission's requirements are and needs. So do not mix up the two

What you want to know does not even need an MRI, documents and in fact, you do not even need to be an expert doctor. Someone who witnessed the injury is sufficient and that has been given to you already. So you can go on but unless you have proof, then you are just posting nonsense.


The commission was aware that there was an injury. That quote has been supplied to you already.

What the commissions couldn't do is approve of giving Manny the medications. Not because there was no injury. It was because it was a few hours away from fight time and they needed to determine if the injury required this medication or not and their doctors didn't have enough time to monitor the situation sufficiently to approve of the medication. So they asked Manny's doctor if he can fight without the medication with his injury or was that impossible to do. Manny's doctor said while the best course of action is to apply the medication, Manny can still fight without it if need be.

Maybe you never did but many athletes play with certain injuries. Be it boxing or other sports. So the initial plan from Manny's team was to use medication and they had approval that they can also use it on fight night as per USADA. Once they were not allowed, they had to think it thru and decide if they can still go ahead without the medication. That does not mean that there was no injury or it all of a sudden disappeared. It meant that Manny had to fight with an injury that can potentially get even worse as the fight progresses.

"ElAttrache said that Pacquiao was able to get through the 12 rounds against Mayweather because he "modulated his approach. He moderated what he did with his right hand. His punch count was less than it has been. He did alter the way he fought to get through the fight with the injury. He is in pain."

"ElAttrache is a well-known sports surgeon who has operated on Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke and New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, as well as boxers such as former heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko and former welterweight titlist Andre Berto."

Again, NSAC went on record stating that Pacquiao's very own physicians said he was healthy, not a health risk, and fine to perform without the medication. So no excuses.

Pacquiao's camp made a request for the boxer to get an anti-inflammatory shot on his shoulder, which the NSAC denied because they had no knowledge or confirmation of an actual injury.

The BS article quote does not state that the medication was denied because he incorrectly filled out the form. It clearly states how it was denied because there was NO PROOF (hence NO CONFIRMATION).

A witness, especially one you employed, is not sufficient proof. There is a reason we have driver's licenses, degrees, etc. They serve as proof that cannot be denied. A witness saying you went to college does not prove you went to college. But official documentation, like your college degree or transcript will prove it and show it's a fact. NSAC wanted something in this manner, but it was unfortunately not provided. So they denied the medication.

[radioraheem]

OK... Dunn and Raheem... I'll take over from here I'm working overnight and have nothing else to do. You guys have done a great job keeping these idiots contained to this thread but no one can do it forever rest up fellas, I'll take this shift... You are doing God's work.

[ADP02]

Again, NSAC went on record stating that Pacquiao's very own physicians said he was healthy, not a health risk, and fine to perform without the medication. So no excuses.



The BS article quote does not state that the medication was denied because he incorrectly filled out the form. It clearly states how it was denied because there was NO PROOF (hence NO CONFIRMATION).

A witness, especially one you employed, is not sufficient proof. There is a reason we have driver's licenses, degrees, etc. They serve as proof that cannot be denied. A witness saying you went to college does not prove you went to college. But official documentation, like your college degree or transcript will prove it and show it's a fact. NSAC wanted something in this manner, but it was unfortunately not provided. So they denied the medication.

Still not showing us proof? Why? Oh, because you don't have. OK, I knew that already.

"Pacquiao and Top Rank did not address why he did not check off the box on his prefight medical form to disclose the injury. Aguilar said had he done that, the commission doctor would have monitored Pacquiao leading up to the fight and that he would have been allowed to receive the prefight anti-inflammatory shot"


The above points out that you, radioraheem, Paulie and some Floyd fans, are the only ones who think that there was no injury. The commission's doctor nor Manny's doctor didn't say that there was no injury. Did they? Like I said, if they did, show me the proof. Commissions said they were aware of the injury but didn't have enough time to monitor the gravity of the injury. If they had the time to monitor it correctly, Manny would have received the medication!!! Their words, not mine. Whoaaaaa! Checkmate!!!



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[radioraheem]

Still not showing us proof? Why? Oh, because you don't have. OK, I knew that already.

"Pacquiao and Top Rank did not address why he did not check off the box on his prefight medical form to disclose the injury. Aguilar said had he done that, the commission doctor would have monitored Pacquiao leading up to the fight and that he would have been allowed to receive the prefight anti-inflammatory shot"

The above points out that you, radioraheem, Paulie and some Floyd fans, are the only ones who think that there was no injury. The commission's doctor nor Manny's doctor didn't say that there was no injury. Did they? Like I said, if they did, show me the proof. Commissions said they were aware of the injury but didn't have enough time to monitor the gravity of the injury. If they had the time to monitor it correctly, Manny would have received the medication!!! Their words, not mine. Whoaaaaa! Checkmate!!!

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The quote is pretty clear. But keep trying to hopelessly spin it. The burden of proof was not on me, or even NSAC. The burden of proof was on Team Pacquiao to provide it to NSAC before the fight. They did not provide NSAC with the proof, and as the article clearly states, NSAC denied the medication.

Bob Bennett, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, says the entire situation with Manny Pacquiao's right shoulder injury is "unacceptable."

Bennett told New York Newsday:

"It's been stated that the NSAC had been advised of Manny's shoulder injury. That's totally incorrect. It was said we were informed by USADA, and USADA never informed us. With the number of years Top Rank has been in business, they know that, if they want to inform us of the situation, they should be telling us. They shouldn't be telling USADA to tell us. That's just unacceptable. We interviewed the physicians representing Manny, and they advised us his health and safety would not be at risk if he fought without the injection."