i wonder why Floyd is "scared to death" of Pacquiao... tsk..tsk
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI remember Floyd wanting the fight way back in 2008/09 when Manny didn't want it. Also when Floyd called Manny on the phone a couple of years back and Manny said no. Listen, facts are that Mayweather said he wants the fight and is just stating what is the truth and that is Manny "Talk to my promoter" Pacquiao don't make no decisions in who he fights or his contracts. Arum runs the show. Are you debating this? Floyd in the article says there are negotiations and he wants to make the fight. How does that translate to ducking?
Maybe you should take a step back, whenever you hear him or anyone else talk, and try to see similar patterns and make up your own conclusion instead of eating whatever comes out of Floyd.
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First time poster...
Just curious... what was the point of calling up Manny directly like he did a couple years ago then if Manny is just a pawn? And who actually believes that the two fighters don't have a say in how they negotiate their fights?
True, the promoters run the event, the promoting, and matchmaking. True, the promoters get handsome percentages and profits as a result. But to think that Manny and Floyd, the two top PPV attractions in the sport, don't get a say?
Blatantly false.
Floyd also left Top Rank before he ever even broke 400k PPV. So by comparison, Manny is a much bigger commodity to Top Rank than Floyd was when he left Bob Arum.
Also, Manny has said on camera more than once that "Me and my promoter have agreed to whatever Floyd wants." You can either count this is as a lie, or truth, and base your opinion on which of those sides of the coin you land on.
And don't mix up fighter's and networks and how they respectively negotiate. They are two separate issues. Connected, sure, but still separate.
And in closing... The fighters will not fight without a contract, and last I checked that contract is a FIGHTER'S contract, meaning Floyd and Manny are both the kings of their side of the chessboard.
...ryan
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View PostOh Bob Arum, accept the ****ing terms already and stop using Mayweather's name to keep your fighter relevant, you've been doing this since the 80s. People are tired of this!!!
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostYup when they were both primed and coming off of big wins against solid opponents. So now you're counting "faults" to try and justify that Floyd is the reason things are how they are? Lame. From my knowledge Floyd tried in 2008/09 and again with the 40Mil after Manny said he would take less. Perfect example that Floyd's claim about Pacquiao is justifiable. Remember when Manny said he would take less to fight Mayweather and then when Bob Arum was asked he said "absolutely not". Obviously Bob is running the show.
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Originally posted by invertebrae View PostFirst time poster...
Just curious... what was the point of calling up Manny directly like he did a couple years ago then if Manny is just a pawn? And who actually believes that the two fighters don't have a say in how they negotiate their fights?
True, the promoters run the event, the promoting, and matchmaking. True, the promoters get handsome percentages and profits as a result. But to think that Manny and Floyd, the two top PPV attractions in the sport, don't get a say?
Blatantly false.
Floyd also left Top Rank before he ever even broke 400k PPV. So by comparison, Manny is a much bigger commodity to Top Rank than Floyd was when he left Bob Arum.
Also, Manny has said on camera more than once that "Me and my promoter have agreed to whatever Floyd wants." You can either count this is as a lie, or truth, and base your opinion on which of those sides of the coin you land on.
And don't mix up fighter's and networks and how they respectively negotiate. They are two separate issues. Connected, sure, but still separate.
And in closing... The fighters will not fight without a contract, and last I checked that contract is a FIGHTER'S contract, meaning Floyd and Manny are both the kings of their side of the chessboard.
...ryan
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Originally posted by invertebrae View PostFirst time poster...
Just curious... what was the point of calling up Manny directly like he did a couple years ago then if Manny is just a pawn? And who actually believes that the two fighters don't have a say in how they negotiate their fights?
True, the promoters run the event, the promoting, and matchmaking. True, the promoters get handsome percentages and profits as a result. But to think that Manny and Floyd, the two top PPV attractions in the sport, don't get a say?
Blatantly false.
Floyd also left Top Rank before he ever even broke 400k PPV. So by comparison, Manny is a much bigger commodity to Top Rank than Floyd was when he left Bob Arum.
Also, Manny has said on camera more than once that "Me and my promoter have agreed to whatever Floyd wants." You can either count this is as a lie, or truth, and base your opinion on which of those sides of the coin you land on.
And don't mix up fighter's and networks and how they respectively negotiate. They are two separate issues. Connected, sure, but still separate.
And in closing... The fighters will not fight without a contract, and last I checked that contract is a FIGHTER'S contract, meaning Floyd and Manny are both the kings of their side of the chessboard.
...ryan
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