Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.

[Augustane]

I'd have to say this is the best Floyd/Manny thread I've seen on ANY site in a long time. Most of the talk is actually about BOXING and not everone has to agree, but at least we aren't dragging promoters and PPV buys into it.

Cheers!

Agreed.

Good thread.

[ironmt]

Show me a gif or video of FMJ ever getting hit with a 3-4 punch combination. If Manny is always moving, he will be winded by the 3rd round.

So you are saying that Floyd Is Incapable of being hit with a three punch combination and that If Pacquiao moves(as he does In every fight he will be winded by the 3rd round)? Try going to youtube and looking up the Mosley fight and see If you can find anywhere In that fight where Floyd was hit with a three punch combination. Then come back and tell everyone that It never happened.

[IronDanHamza]

Ask Floyd Sr. He stated the same thing. The shoulder roll defense wasn't designed to be effective against southpaws. Sure Floyd beat them all but he's had trouble with them. Judah was able to land some nice straight lefts right down the middle on Floyd and we all know that straight left is Pacquiaos money punch.

Well he's not really had trouble with them.

How many rounds did he lose collectively in all of those fights?

6 or 7 and that's at most.

[Larry the boss]

He wrote all that just for a ban? Damn.

lol.............

[MayMosPeaHop]

he's been hit with a couple, if we include body and head cotto and maidana had a couple of moments of clean body and head shots, combos of 3+

floyd has never faced a pacquiao like combo puncher though, you probabley never seen bradley get hit by a 3-4 punch combination to the head before pacquiao neither

but if it happens to floyd i think he'd probabley have to be donning the earmuffs

I do not see him using his earmuff defense a lot against Manny because of his size and reach. Manny's best attribute is his feet. Manny is a pretty conventional fighter now, but his feet are great. Manny's problem will be when he steps forward what will FMJ do? Marquez would move back and make Manny reset and also counter off that movement. Remember the knockout. FMJ can implement JMM's same game plan but to me FMJ does not have to move as much. Watch the JMM fight. FMJ treats shorter fighters that fight at distance like little kids. To me, that is the worry for Manny. Can he reach FMJ. Will his combinations become predictable? There was plenty of times when JMM was in close to with FMJ and he just parried all JMM punches.

[MayMosPeaHop]

Those guys are clearly not A level fighters

Even Larry thinks PAC beats Floyd, it's one thing making your opponent miss but you have to fire back to score points and I truly believe will not take that risk vs pacquaio.

What risk, Manny creates his own openings for the opponent with his offense.

[JasonBoxing]

The entire opening content of this thread was stolen word for word from another boxing forum. The guy who made the thread here did not site the author. The original author posted here and asked you to stop posting this. Nothing has been done. The original author wrote a great piece that is better than 99% of the **** editorials on any boxing site.

BS needs to delete this thread asap. What they should really do is offer the original author some money to publish his thoughts as an opinion article. But allowing some neophyte poster to steal his content is not the way to do this.

I realize this is the net and I could have it all wrong but the facts are as described above from what I am seeing.

First off, Boxing Scene does not need to do anything some random poster from the internet says. NSB is the sole surviving major forum left among boxing posters(with the mass exodus of ESB leaving that site a barren wasteland of trash)

Second off you have no idea who I am. Third off Bogotazo is not a good writer, he just writes good. I'm 10 times the writer he is.
As proven by this thread.

[CatchAndShoot]

I do not see him using his earmuff defense a lot against Manny because of his size and reach. Manny's best attribute is his feet. Manny is a pretty conventional fighter now, but his feet are great. Manny's problem will be when he steps forward what will FMJ do? Marquez would move back and make Manny reset and also counter off that movement. Remember the knockout. FMJ can implement JMM's same game plan but to me FMJ does not have to move as much. Watch the JMM fight. FMJ treats shorter fighters that fight at distance like little kids. To me, that is the worry for Manny. Can he reach FMJ. Will his combinations become predictable? There was plenty of times when JMM was in close to with FMJ and he just parried all JMM punches.

Did you see JMM's face in the process? You're joking right?

JMM couldn't counter the right because he's not a southpaw. An orthodox conventional fighter is nothing to Floyd.

A southpaw that's not Victor Ortiz, Guerrero, Judah, and that's actually great will give Floyd the fight of his life.

[MayMosPeaHop]

Ask Floyd Sr. He stated the same thing. The shoulder roll defense wasn't designed to be effective against southpaws. Sure Floyd beat them all but he's had trouble with them. Judah was able to land some nice straight lefts right down the middle on Floyd and we all know that straight left is Pacquiaos money punch.

FMJ fought Judah in 2006. FMJ has definitely made adjustments to how he fights southpaws. And Sr. has a old school way of thinking when it comes to fighting southpaws. Don't fight them. I think he did have problems years ago, bit not anymore. You can see a clear difference in his tactics and right arm position.

[MayMosPeaHop]

So you are saying that Floyd Is Incapable of being hit with a three punch combination and that If Pacquiao moves(as he does In every fight he will be winded by the 3rd round)? Try going to youtube and looking up the Mosley fight and see If you can find anywhere In that fight where Floyd was hit with a three punch combination. Then come back and tell everyone that It never happened.

The burden of proof is not on me. If you have seen it, show it. Also, I never said incapable. I would like to see it.