Comments Thread For: Arum: Mayweather - The Only Impediment in a Deal

[DeadLikeMe]

We need investors for an event of this magnitude like Joe Jackson and Bobby Brown

[bigjavi973]

It's business for Mayweather and Haymon.

Mayweather v Pac is the biggest fight of the last decade and longer. Mayweather wants that to be the flagship promotion of Mayweater Promotions, he doesn't want to share it, he wants it so Mayweather Promotions supersede Top Rank and Golden Boy as the biggest promotional outfit in the sport. That fight is a massive asset to whoever promotes it, and Mayweater obviously wants it to be for his company, not someone else's.

I'm not agreeing with it, but I think that's the reason.

Makes sense to me. Schafer + Al Haymon + Al haymon fighters + FMP = the death of boxing.

[The Big Dunn]

How can u compare the situations? Pacquiao is a big time side a pay-per-view headliner. Mosley and Marquez have never been one. Pac, at that time was just as big as may now

no he isn't. he has never been. see below-450k less sales and $98 mil less in revenue as of April 2014.



you keep avoiding my points and suggesting (but not outright saying) that its ok to do it to boxers who are not big ppv earners. You wont just say that because you'd be contradicting your own point since it is clear Manny isn't as big an earner as Floyd.

Besides, Floyd said this in an interview. Manny and his team did this during negotiations and you still act as if its not wrong to even suggest it when it was made a condition of getting a manny fight. come on dude.

if its ok for JMM and shane to do it, its got to be ok for manny as well. Manny isn't special.

[The Big Dunn]

Please stop with the triangle theories!

that's not a triangle theory-I didn't say he would lose to I said he didn't want to fight.

When you regurgitate **** you've seen better posters than you use on NSB, at least use it in the right context.

[LouIE G]

List of excuses floyd has used (since 2009-present):
Take the test
Take less money
Leave bob arum
Sign on to mayweather promotions
He has marquez problems
He has gotten ko'd
He has tax problems
Showtime gets the fight
FMP is the lead promoter

and there are videos of floyd interviews of him completely dodging the questions about pacquiao. Also, there's a video of floyd basically explaining his reasoning why he thinks pacquiao is juicing. There's no way I can believe a hypocrite like floydie.

Be fair and post pac and arums excuses too from 09-present....

[Bronx2245]

Come on man, we all know that floyd should have fought cotto after hatton in late 2008. The plan was to get cotto-margarito and the winner fight floydie. oh wait, he "retired".

I know you already know this. Oscar was the cash cow:

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.



"Absolutely he did [make the right move going on his own]," Arum said. "Why? He realized something we didn't realize. He kept telling us we were promoting him wrong, and we should make an effort, a big effort, to promote him in the urban community. I as an old guy remembered the urban community from the days of promoting Muhammad Ali, and it is a totally different community now than it was then during the Ali days.

"He meant that we should have promoted him to the young black people in the music community and those in the urban market place. He was completely right. If he'd have stayed with us, maybe we would have gotten it. Maybe. Maybe. But to a certain extent, he's been better off on his own doing what he's done, and I have no hard feelings."



Mayweather wasn't scared of Cotto or Margarito. Oscar where where the money was at. Once he was gone, he couldn't get Cotto, but he got him...after he left Arum. Like someone said, Cotto laid the blueprint for Manny. Manny chose to do otherwise.

[DeadLikeMe]

Be fair and post pac and arums excuses too from 09-present....

It's about 4 times longer.

[sirron000]

All fighters know that signing with Arum's company will streamline the process of fighting Pac because it keeps the revenues in-house, and provides an opportunity for negotiation when they sign up. So why not? Its a win-win for the fighter and the promoter. It's shrewd and leaves out other promotional companies, but this is why it's called a 'Business'.

Both Shane and Juan signed with Arum on their own free will. Nobody put a gun to their head, nor did Arum or Pac make these absurd baby-like demands. It was done through business negotiations.

See u r new to boxing..welcome.. The reason Arum didn't want PAC fighting GB's fighters is because when PAC signed with Arum than stole Oscar's money and Oscar filed a lawsuit one of the awards was that if PAC fought a GB fighter; GB would be the lead promoter and Arum would have to open those cooked books he carries around for PAC.

Signed with Arum under there free will is right but it was a stipulation to get the PAC fight. If PAC really wants the fight and is most certainly the "B" side that means NO Rob Arum. Stipulations work both ways

[bigjavi973]

or, maybe he never really wanted to fight Floyd who is bigger, stronger, faster, more skilled, better defensively and has a longer reach than the guy who manny had down 3 times in the 1st rd and only got a draw against.

So he doesnt wanna fight floyd because of all these things??? you are comparing floyd with jmm and thats not a triangle theory? I thought styles makes fights?

[elishua F]

What facts? How I didn't answer anything? hahahahahahaha You said floyd is the A side, I said who retired and who kept on fighting and winning.
Arum doesnt owe any money to floyd, they both went to court and sued each other and what not.
Floyd has stated that, and if you never heard it well start doing some of your own research.
You said pacquiao has marquez problems, I countered with maidana has alexander and khan problems and khan has garcia problems.

How is that not responding to your comment??? Seems you hammered to many fairy tales.

No, you said Floyd asked Manny to sign to Mayweather Promotions, I asked where you got this from? Still no answer. Now back to Arum, take the money owed out of the picture, would you conduct business with a man who publicly calls for a boycott of your product and compares you to Hitler? Now how can Maidana have Alexander problems if they only fought once, Manny has Marquez problems because he still needs a 5th attempt to try to figure him out.