Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

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Yeah i'm not sure where people are getting this 'Lennox had a bad chin' thing from. Vitali hit him with some ridiculous punches & he never wobbled.

[LacedUp]

Lewis didn't have a bad chin wtf? He only ever got sparked 2ce and knocked down a few other times by very hard punchers, that's the modern heavyweight, single shots are so hard they can turn the tide.

And not exactly exiting?

You couldn't have really seen Lewis, there are few fighters I can watch over and over and Lewis happens to be one of them. It's either beautiful or it's savage or it's both. He's one of the most exciting HW's by far!

Some of these guys are unreal! LOL

he didn't get knocked down a few times?

He only touched the canvas twice in his career.

[Elroy1]

If Wladimir was invincible he wouldnt have to Hug men like Povetkin for 12 freaking rounds. He has no inside game whatsoever. He just hugs people because apparently thats what passes for boxing in Germany.

Ask yourself why the Heavyweight champion of The World is too Poosee to fight in the Mecca of the sport in Las Vegas? Is it because he cant Hug-n-Drug like he can in Deutschland?

You have just exposed yourself as an American hater!

Germany IS the Mecca for HW boxing.

The flag that was embedded in your soil for 150 years was uprooted and transported to the other side of the world. If you want it back, you must win it.

Instead of whinging about it, get behind and root for your current prospects like Wilder, Jennings, Arreola and STiverne. These guys are better boxers than (almost) all who came before from your country, yet none of them are favourites and most of the top contenders come from Europe in HW and the other heftier limited divisions.

You got beaten.

And regardless of distaste for style, the fact is he dominantly beats his opponents, period. And in an era where it is illegal to face bums. Even the bummiest WK opponent is still a decent opponent by necessity!

[New England]

1: He was exceptional, great jab, great right hand, great power, decent footwork and a bad chin. It combined to create an unusual mix, he didn't exactly have an exciting style, especially late in his career but with that chin, there was always a sense of danger and it kept you watching. The punches he took from Vitali were immense though.

2: Yes, I think Lewis would have eventually ground him down and Bowe would have shrunk back, as he did at times in his career. He had the power to hurt Lewis but Lewis too had power, a better jab and better punch selection. Bowe knew it too.

lewis did not have a bad chin.


he faced one of the best lineups of punchers you will ever seen from a HW. these were big, hard punching dudes.

klitschko
tyson
rahman
tua
grant
holyfield
briggs
golota
morrison
mercer
tucker
ruddock


these guys range from good punchers, to some of the better flat out ****ers we've seen at HW.

[Elroy1]

he didn't get knocked down a few times?

He only touched the canvas twice in his career.

No, your lying, he did not only get KD 2ce in his career, he was down other times I know he was, I took your word your 1 fight before but now I will have to check other suspect fights because I know he was down others, not very many times but certainly some. Your mistaken, I seen Lewis's fights many times. I'll get back to you. If I am wrong I will admit it and say sorry LOL

[LacedUp]

No, your lying, he did not only get KD 2ce in his career, he was down other times I know he was, I took your word your 1 fight before but now I will have to check other suspect fights because I know he was down others, not very many times but certainly some. Your mistaken, I seen Lewis's fights many times. I'll get back to you. If I am wrong I will admit it and say sorry LOL

I followed Lennox's career from the early 90s so unless he was down in some of his early fights, he wasn't down other times than the two.

He was staggered briefly against Briggs, and to some extent Bruno - and Vitali, but other than that no. But if he was down more times, please find out.

[Joeyzagz]

You have just exposed yourself as an American hater!

Germany IS the Mecca for HW boxing.

The flag that was embedded in your soil for 150 years was uprooted and transported to the other side of the world. If you want it back, you must win it.

Instead of whinging about it, get behind and root for your current prospects like Wilder, Jennings, Arreola and STiverne. These guys are better boxers than (almost) all who came before from your country, yet none of them are favourites and most of the top contenders come from Europe in HW and the other heftier limited divisions.

You got beaten.

And regardless of distaste for style, the fact is he dominantly beats his opponents, period. And in an era where it is illegal to face bums. Even the bummiest WK opponent is still a decent opponent by necessity!

Lennox is a lot of things but American is not one of them. Brit/Jamaican/Canadian.. Still...He wasnt afraid to fight in Vegas like WK is now. You couldnt pay WK enough money to fight in Vegas because he has too many nightmares from Brewster and Williamson.

WK wont even fight in his home country of Ukraine cuz Puritty whupped him their. WK is a very superstitious mammal.

[Elroy1]

No they are not. McCall is the best fighter of all them, but Rahman won against Sanders - so there's that.

Wheter McCall is the best fighter is pure speculation, I'd say overall it's Sanders also speculation. The fight Sanders vs Rahman was a gas out in which Sanders was previously belting Rahman.

Lewis wasn't 'outboxed' stop it please. His fight with McCall started out guns blazing in the first round - nobody was boxing. and he was stopped early in the second.

Ok so I will grant you that if you also grant that WK was never outboxed by Sanders because it was of the same nature, both wiped out before action really commenced. Except McCall was not an awkward opponent like Sanders.

He wasn't outboxed by Rahman either. With regards to Wlad, he was never in the fight vs Sanders, and it wasn't a butt, it was a clash of heads. There's a difference and it was minor. Wlad didn't even mention it, so no reason you should either.

He was CLEARLY outboxed and then KOed by Rahman, watch it again. And the incident with WK/Sanders was anything but minor LOL It's been covered completely in the article "Hahaha Corrie Sanders was a Golfer" see the anvil punch. That would have rocked anybody, there's a nice close up slomo.

Lewis was ready to rumble in the McCall fight, but it got stopped.

Haha yeah, it looked like it.

Once again, Lewis ended the McCall fight on his feet ready to fight on. He took a hard shot, but rose. Rahman fight he didn't beat the count, but he wasn't out cold.

Same as WK, you agree, yes or no?

Except there is 1 difference...

On every occasion, LL got starched by a single shot...

WK has NEVER been starched by a single shot!

OK - I think that's a little ridiculous. I could say Wlad didn't avenge his loss to Brewster because he was fat and half-blind. Lewis had the courage to get in with McCall again and beat the McCall in front of him. It's not Lewis' fault what state McCall was in.

No, you're right there, I was being picky. Excuse me LOL.

Sanders dropped him 4 times, Peter 3 times, Brewster 2 times, Pannell, Williamson, Purrity all dropped him once = 12 times.

Ok that's probably right, so really when you say 8 times, it was really only on 6 different occasions (counting only the Peter ones individually because the other KD's happened at once) or even 6 considering different opponents. That's really not so bad.

What your really saying is that WK needs to be penalised further for GETTING UP from knockdowns?

I don't care about weight. Being heavier doesn't make you punch harder, especially when it's fat heavy. Lewis was down twice in his career - yet weltschmerz said his chin was questionable in relation to a fight between him and Wlad that's just dumb.

Being Heavy definitely makes you punch harder regardless of whether it is muscle or fat, that is a fact of pure physics and punch mechanics. I think he was down atleast a couple other times. I think WK and LL chins are about the same.

Wlad doesn't have a good chin. Let's be real. What he does have is an unbelievably good defense. and that's better.

His chin isn't the thing of admiration but he has a good chin. He has survived huge shots from huge punchers and either shrugged them off or got up off the floor to win, and even when lost, still got up. He definitely has a decent chin.

Holyfield was nowhere near the same that fought Ibragimov. Not at all. Thompson is shyt, he couldn't even beat Tyson on his last fight.

Just disagree.

But let's talk about Mercer, Ruddock, Tucker, Golota, Grant, McCall, Bruno, Mason.. Hell even Biggs and Tommy Morrison were decent fighters. And Mike Weaver - probably the best physique you ever saw on a heavyweight. These guys are literally 10 times better than the likes of Haye and Povetkin.

They are great fighters, but they are all comparable to Haye and Povetkin and a slew of other WK opponents. Fact!

[IMDAZED]

I would love to hear all the times Lennox has been down aside from McCall and Rahman.

I'll be here waiting.

[Elroy1]

I would love to hear all the times Lennox has been down aside from McCall and Rahman.

I'll be here waiting.

Maybe he wasn't down, I am not insisting on that.

Honestly I thought he went down vs Briggs and vs Bruno and maybe against Mercer off the top of my head but maybe he was just staggered.

If those are the only 2 times he has been down then that lends massive credit to Lewis for chin..

In fact that makes any question regarding Lewis's chin, being down only 2ce in an era of superheavyweight punchers, beyond ridiculous.

To that I completely concede!